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Boston/Cambridge. #2 tech hub (behind the Bay Area), and you don't need or want a car in the city. Unlike in Silicon Valley, where you basically need a car.

Neither is exactly inexpensive, though. The problem with living in a tech hub is that tech people tend to make lots of money and bid the price of everything up accordingly.

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I live next to Cambridge in Somerville; I moved here from Cambridge, before that Palo Alto, and before that San Francisco, and before that, Oakland.

Real estate and rent in Cambridge is substantially cheaper (2x?) than anything in Silicon Valley, and Somerville is even cheaper. Some of Somerville is rough, sort of like Oakland, but areas of it (like Davis Square) have all the benefits of Cambridge. Admittedly, you're a few subway stops (say, 5-10 minutes difference) further away from Boston.

The other major difference is the weather. If you don't like snow, living here sucks. But, if you like the winter, I think Somerville is a win.

Oh, also: the burritos here suck.

Let there be no mention of Anna's. La Costena FTW!

Ah, the misery of looking for burritos in Boston. I moved here from the Bay Area a couple of years ago. It's the best place I've ever lived, for all the reasons you mention--but no burritos. And yeah, then people add insult to injury by bringing up Anna's.

The most adequate burrito I've found around here was at Super Burrito in Everett. Know of anything better?

Chipotle has the best burritos I've tried in the Boston area. There's one in Harvard square and another in Davis square(I think).

Yes, there is a Chipotle in Davis Square, almost across from the Burren.

But the best burritos (in my opinion) are at Tacos Lupita on Elm Street. The food is El Salvadorean; the burritos are delicious.

(El Pelon near Fenway was also quite good, until they burned down again.)

A friend of mine frequents Taco Loco over in Somerville. I've never been, but he seems to always be talking about how good the food is there.

Boloco's okay, there's one on Boston & Winthrop in Medford, and some other sprinkled around town.

Have you tried the Blue Shirt right in Davis Sq? As far as cheap and easy food, pizza and bagels here seem like the burritos of SF.

Yeah, the Blue Shirt is delightful. They just expanded into the space next door and added free wifi. If I didn't have an office for work, that would be my target.

I didn't find rent to be all that different. You're looking at about $650-700/month with roommates in Davis Square, $1100-1200 for a 1BR in Davis/Porter. In Mountain View, you're looking at about $800-900 with roommates or $1400 for a 1BR. Harvard Square and South End rents are actually more expensive than many places in Palo Alto and Mountain View.

The big difference is in cars: you don't need a car to get around most places in Boston, but you do need one in Silicon Valley. And if you live in places of Boston where you do want a car (like the Somerville/Medford border, or much of Waltham, or western Arlington), the rents fall by $200-300/month to compensate. So then you really are looking at close to a 2x difference with Silicon Valley.

I'd agree that Mountain View beats Harvard Square and the South End on cost, but I don't think Mountain View is nearly as fun to live in as Harvard Square. Harvard Square has a subway stop, lots of stores, restaurants, and Harvard. The cheap part of Mountain View has a maze of twisty little streets, all alike.

(I should admit that I've never actually lived in Mountain View, but I did live over the line in Palo Alto, and I went to Mountain View a lot.)

Again, it's the car vs. pedestrian dichotomy. I live in Mountain View now, and there're plenty of stores, restaurants, Stanford, etc. within a 15 minute radius. It's just that that 15 minutes requires a car. (Well, technically I can walk to downtown from my place, but it takes me 20-30 minutes.)

I used to live in the Boston suburbs, with most of my friends in the Porter-through-Central area, and there's tons of stuff within 15 minutes of Harvard Square. It's just that that 15 minutes is all on foot. You don't want a car in Boston, as parking can frequently be as expensive as rent.

If you like driving, Silicon Valley is fine. If you'd rather walk, Boston is way better.

Agreed. I really don't like driving.

I'd also say that maintaining a car costs more than maintaining your feet, but compared to rent, both are small.

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