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Even in McDonalds if what they give you is defective they will replace it without question once you bring it to their attention.

If it turned out the door locks on the car were defective you'd expect them to be replaced under warranty. If the warranty had expired the situation would, admittedly, be a bit murkier - but you could still make a case that since the locks had always been faulty they'd be the manufacturer's responsibility.

Someone I used to work with had a car a few years ago on which the battery would mysteriously drain for no obvious reason. It turned out to be a defect in the infotainment system's firmware - and he was furious that he was expected to pay for the firmware update to fix it. (The car was long out of warranty, though.)

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> if what they give you is defective they will replace it without question once you bring it to their attention

Go there and request a rare steak or idk steak with kimchi, let is know how it goes!

This is a Korean car and probably secure enough in korea where you usually don't lock your bike and/or house. If it not secure if you park it on the street in SF/London/Magadan/Capetown/Kabul are you sure they owe you a free "fix" for everything that may occur

That's absurd logic as cybersecurity applies everywhere.

Also, they need to secure it the international markets they're selling it in.

You are confusing infosec on the internet which is global and local crime which is not global and VERY different per country

In the internet age, all it takes is a generic programmable radio signal emitter device. The logic is probably even free available on some GitHub repo.

You don't seem to understand the idea:

For internet security, you get everyone hack you from north koreans and beyond.

For house and car security it depends on what crime is in your location and how police work. Some places have almost zero so people literally don't care to lock doors. Some places need locks to stop opportunists. Some places you need electric fences and 24/7 security with guns and keep valuables in safes to hopefully slow down their removal until security comes. It's not comparable to cyber

Hyundai has car factories in 10 countries. The car in question is made in at least 2 countries. The defect being fixed applies to cars sold by a British subsidiary in Britain to Britons with the promise that it meets British market standards. It’s not even clear to me that these cars were manufactured in Korea, if they were, they couldn’t be sold there due to the right hand drive. The cars in question were very much NOT made to be driven in Korean conditions.

If these people had bought a Korean market car in Korea and personally shipped it to the UK, yours would be a more compelling argument.

As it is, it makes no sense. If you choose to participate in a foreign market you do not get to abdicate responsibility for problems because they don’t exist in your home market.

Absurd. McDonald chose to participate in Korean market and I see no kimchi burgs there?

That’s because you didn’t check.

McDonald’s, famously, adapts their menu to the location. Here’s a bulgogi burger they only sell in Korea: https://www.mcdonalds.co.kr/eng/menu/detail.do

Here’s another menu item exclusive to Korea https://www.mcdonalds.co.kr/eng/menu/detail.do

It is one of many local menu items available exclusively in Korea. What is absurd is that you make false assertions that can be checked faster than you can write your comment.

Do you genuinely think that Hyundai does not adapt the car to the market (did they accidentally put the steering wheel on the right, and just happen to send those cars to the UK?)? Every car company HAS to do this, if only because different markets have contradictory rules. E.g. Lights that are legal in North America do not meet the standards of other countries. The car HAS to be adapted to the market.

What an absolutely absurd thing to say

I agree the mere notion is ridiculous yet here we are! Hyundai is not making the kimchi burger of free theft protection upgrades for places with rampant crime and we are so angry!

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