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I love the modularity, but unlike the 13" version this one is just too bulky. For this reason I am eyeing up Thinkpad P1, even though it is only available with an Intel CPU.

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Do you mean it's bulky even compared to other 16" laptops, or just that a 16" laptop is too bulky for you? Because I know they're not for everyone but I like larger laptops (am currently on 15.6") and was pleasantly surprised when they came out with the 16" as I thought the trend was generally towards smaller laptops.

Thinkpad P1 is 1.8kg whereas Framework 16" is 2.4kg - substantial difference. And P1 even looks less bulkier overall. This is quite unfortunate, because I would rather buy Framework than Lenovo.

I use a P1 and I don't think I'd buy another. The fan runs a lot. When I carry it in my backpack, I have to remember to do a complete shutdown otherwise I'll pull a very hot machine with a mostly depleted battery out of my backpack when I get to my destination.

Outside of Apple, there doesn't seem to be many good fanless laptops. I'd love to see Framework come up with something.

Thanks for the info! My current laptop is T14s Gen 3 which I find perfect, but the screen size is a big insufficient for programming. I will be looking for a 16" laptop and currently there aren't that many options with a centred keyboard.

The launch video for this new Framework Laptop 16 mentioned firmware improvements to disable wake on keypress when the laptop's screen is closed, specifically to prevent the type of situation you mentioned. I've personally experienced similar issues with an XPS 15 in the past; I'm hopeful this type of change will help.

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