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Feminism maybe? (yes controversial, more science needed)

Doubt it, but I wouldn’t be surprised if the erosion of woman’s rights is contributing. There are places in the US today where you will die by a pregnancy gone wrong because doctors are terrified of losing their licenses and livelihoods if a court rules (after the fact) that the procedure wasn’t necessary.

Where women are forced to carry to term after rape.

Where seeking medical care in another state for either scenario will result in prosecution.

These are real, serious concerns for many woman that will have a cooling effect on their willingness to have intimate relationships.

Feminism started in 2010?

yeah, if you were going with the political cultural phenomena explanations rather than merely reduced socialization, the "incel" movements are a far more recent phenomenon than feminism...

Any logistic/exponential curve starts slowly.

The feminism movement started seeing successes only recently.

Women got the right to vote in 2015.

Social media feminism started

So did social media white nationalism. So did social media basket weaving enthusiasm. Social media happened.

I was on some forums back then and it literally took over the entire forum and installed itself into the moderation team. The entire social environment transformed as a result.

Say what you will about the positives or negatives of feminism, but that did literally occur.

It commandeered most of the culture in fact, and began policing everyone’s speech, actions, pastimes and fantasies. Then it seemed to eat itself and disappear.

I put this disappearance down to two factors: “me too” alienated too many women, and also the millennials who drove the movement aged out and eased up on their online activities. Gen Z didn’t want any part in it so there were no successors.

Today is like life post covid: we all know it happened but somehow it’s unreal and unbelievable. Some refuse to believe it ever happened at all.

I don't think this should be a controversial point at all. I'm also pro-feminism. If certain men want to have sex, be better men.

Yes, in the sense that educated and working women have started to prefer a partner at the same or higher levels of education and income.

But most people don't have college degrees, so this doesn't explain everything.

College educated women are marrying at about same rate as they used to. They marry men with similar income even if they are not College educated.

Uneducated women marry significantly less.

Why Feminism? Isn't Feminism encouraging women to have more sex i.e sexual liberation, nudity is no longer a taboo, women are no longer constrained to a single man, all that jazz?

My understanding is that Conservatism encourages family values but at the cost of having less sexual partners (for example no sex before marriage) whereas Liberalism encourages the opposite.

> Isn't Feminism encouraging women to have more sex i.e sexual liberation, nudity is no longer a taboo, women are no longer constrained to a single man, all that jazz

That was 50 years ago, they are probably talking about how feminism changed since then.

Sex-positivity is still the dominant belief system amongst modern feminists.

Another controversial point, but it is not a secret that sex is more a man's thing. Give women more "powers" and the outcome of less sex should not come as a surprise.

But reality is of course more complicated ... so don't blame it on one reason.

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