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Cute article but skong isn’t as hard as op makes it out to be. I wonder if he’s played any soulsborne games or even hollow knight. Git gud!!!

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Don't so easily dismiss the opinions of others. For certain individuals it is indeed the hardest game they've ever played. I've cleared Steelsoul 100% in the OG Hollow Knight and would argue that Silksong is definitely the more difficult of the two.

Silksong is objectively hard, and if you're trying to argue otherwise you're either the mythical "god gamer" or just trolling. The game is unapologetically hard and punishing right from the beginning. The very second boss you encounter already hits you for 2 masks (which effectively means 3 hits and you're dead), and each time you try to fight him you first have to run back for a minute before you reach him. He even does 2 masks of contact damage. Heck, even some normal enemies you encounter in the first two hours deal 2 damage. The original Hollow Knight bosses didn't do 2 masks damage until half way through the game.

Don't get me wrong, I still love the game and consider it pretty much a masterpiece, but many people believe (myself included) the game could have a better difficulty curve from the beginning and be less punishing (just give me a freaking bench before each boss so I don't have to run through 10 screens to have another try at it) while still maintaining the overall difficulty and challenge.

The very first boss in Hollow Knight, False Knight, does two masks of damage.

No, he doesn’t. Check for yourself at around 30:30 min mark: https://youtu.be/JNdJ5ozN8cU?feature=shared

You're probably thinking of Failed Champion, the Dream variant.

It Is hard, sure.

But this: "Silksong as a game should not exist. It is so brutally difficult that it stretches the very definition of the word "game"" is an immense exaggeration, I could understand this for, maybe, IWBTG.

But you can heal 3 masks of damage in about the same amount of time it takes to heal 1 mask in HK ...

"The game is unapologetically hard and punishing right from the beginning." -- sorry i just dont agree with that. Mosshome is really basic. My 11 year old kid is already in citadel. Yes the game is hard but i think the community is forgetting how hard the original HK was, not to mention when Dark Souls came out it was notorious! But yes I agree silksong has its moments. Moorwing made me feel at a complete loss for a while, first time i've felt that since I was fighting Ornstein and Smough in DS1. Last Judge was also pretty difficult but felt balanced and learnable.

I guess more than anything it's just been cool to see the community come together on silksong.

It's also obscene in this day and age I can't upgrade my weapon to out damage the boss if I feel I need to. One of my pet peeves is having game designers feel like their design supersedes how I want to play.

If I absolutely do not want to play a boss; for whatever reason, I should be allowed to find an alternative way to get through that area. If grinding endlessly for damage is the alternative, fine. But at least there is one.

Played all the soulsborne and 100%-ed HK. Except the last pantheon, I couldn't ever beat ascended moth

Ok, this is as close as I'm ever gonna get to having a real reason to post this on HN, so here goes:

"Git Gud" by Viva La Dirt League: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=blSXTZ3Nihs

Praise the sun!

Elden Ring is easier than Silksong. Summons are easy mode.

i dont know about that, elden ring has some extremely difficult moments.

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