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> abolition of slavery, the global transition to democracy, and decolonization

It's notable that all of those are pre-democratic.

Many slaving countries were democratic as it was understood at the time. All modern democracies disenfranchise some people e.g. the young, people with criminal convictions in some countries.

Could you please clarify your statement?

>> Attacks on free speech - like social media censorship or bans - makes democracy not possible.

GP stated this.

Parent replied with a list of scenarios where violence created progress, albeit none of which featured universal democracy before the violence.

IOW, they are loudly agreeing with each other.

At least in the case of the USA, then, there's still no universal democracy. Corporations have far more powerful and influence, in basically every election you can only vote for a neoliberal, and plenty of people get disenfranchised.

It seems like bike-shedding to equate complete lack of franchise with vote dilution.

They are very different levels of democratic access.

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