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Has any distro ever promised that there are zero bugs in the software they use? I don’t particularly like Wayland but a lot of people have been using it for years at this point…

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User adoption is not really a great metric when it ships as a default on common distros. Most people would rather deal with issues and wait for support than fix things in an unsupported way.

If it wasn't a default, it'd go back to barely being used.

If it's really broken, they can't get away with setting it default.

Microsoft/Google would like to have a word with you.

Yep lol my experience on Windows 11 is that when opening a laptop, there's a realistic chance the taskbar will hang and have to restart itself (which takes a surprisingly long time)

This is my reality too and the taskbar takes some stuff down with it.

Also the taskbar is just broken in general. It'll pull tons of apps behind the '...' button even though there's plenty of room on the taskbar and it'll also put fake apps that aren't actually open on the taskbar.

Also no vertical task bar. Come on Microsoft.

If you're referring to the fact that new toolbar icons in Win11 are automatically hidden and that setting can't be changed for god knows what reason, I can recommend https://github.com/Aemony/NotifyIconPromote

Or the last 27 years of audio on Linux.

Yes Microsoft too. Windows is by far the most stable and compatible desktop OS. The broken stuff you run into there isn't comparable to what you deal with on Linux, especially a niche distro.

I agree that it isn’t a great metric for, like, how good the desktop environments are in some overall sense. I’m just saying it has enough users that it isn’t some niche thing where a ton of bugs can easily hide.

But it does just have a ton of bugs - or just straight up missing features that are available in every other window manager on every operating system.

So does Xorg. I actually switched my spare PC to Wayland (default Ubuntu) recently because Xorg (on Linux Mint) kept going black whenever my monitor would sleep/wake. Nothing too fancy, just an HP tower with Intel CPU and Nvidia GPU.

Idk what's even different between them, it was just obvious that I was in the non-default / minority of users territory, so I got out.

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