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> This tilt towards later-in-life divorce is happening for a mix of reasons, studies suggest.

My pet theory is an increase in treatments for "low testosterone" is a non-trivial contributor.

I’d be surprised if it made a dent… I’d probably first check the numbers on this… you are saying that because men can get their testosterone up even later in their lives, they either cheat, get sexually frustrated, or less likely to put up with their wives behavior? Interesting theory, but I would be surprised if the numbers supported this pet theory.

Men with higher testosterone has been linked to cheating in various studies--honestly I thought this was common knowledge. And treatments for "low t" (targeted at middle-aged and older males) have been more and more common over the past few decades. I guess it just seems fairly plausible.

[1] https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/31326436/

[2] https://www.apa.org/monitor/dec06/testosterone

[3] https://uk.style.yahoo.com/men-high-testosterone-more-likely...

Literally none of that supports your hypothesis, and you haven't established the first factor: are testosterone treatments statistically significant within the target demographic?

i have tried taking testosterone and it had several mind-blowing benefits and i can say with complete confidence that testosterone hrt is actually one of the most effective methods to save or hold together a heterosexual marriage. quite the opposite of what you think. such a shame that hrt is demonized by most people when its test rather than estrogen

What were the benefits?

the biggest benefit was to my sleep and this is true of pretty much everyone who takes it. i was able to have very deep, restful and unbroken sleep. the best sleep of my life. normally i can barely sleep and wake up in the night and do not feel rested. ive been like that since my 20s and nothing touches it besides testosterone. other benefits include much better mood, a tendency to be much more open and likable, tons of energy and motivation behind everything i do and of course being much stronger is also nice. cardiovascular performance, the ability to do cardio heavy tasks and not get winded, massively increased. i loved it. but it made me less calculated and thoughtful which is important for my job so i decided to stop. i will almost certainly start again in the future.

even after stopping i noticed that there seems to be a lot more pressure on my heels when im standing. i think it has a positive effect on my default sympathetic tone or something like that. drawbacks are sleep apnea, hair loss and testicle shrinkage

Isn't the downside that once you're on TRT, your own body won't keep making testosterone, so you end up never being able to stop the injections?

your body does stop making its own but there is no clear answer as to whether or not your body loses the ability to restart its own endogenous production. thats how new and also ignored/understudied testosterone hrt is… if you wait a fee years there might be new information or biomarkers that can help answer this question.

there are other things you can do to preserve your bodies natural T production. there are medications that induce it but its not been studied for long term use. there is also another hormone you can take called HCG that will cause your body to continue making test but its difficult to use.

There is a clear answer - that is, it depends. Some people are able to (mostly) recover their own production and some aren’t. Bodies are complicated.

where is the study showing this?

I was on TRT for 10 years. Then I met an amazing woman, we wanted to start a family. Fertility clinic confirmed 0 sperm production. 6 months later she, she fell pregnant.

Obvious question: was she also sleeping with someone else at the time she got pregnant? Did you do a paternity test?

did you taper off? how did it feel?

I stopped nebido cold turkey, went on HMG and HCG by subcutaneous injection 3 days a week. Had a few chills and sweats at first, but mood impact was not noticeable. No change to training routine (HiiT, boxing muay thai and calisthenics). A few months along, I switched to enclopmiphene citrate (25mg daily).

Me, too, and I agree it has helped in my marriage. I don't think it'd be helpful in all marriages, though. Particularly if you are in a career that puts you in high-temptation situations.

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