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Small phones used to be all the rage, imagine a trend reversal and an iPhone mini built like this with a flush camera.

Oh what a dream…

I want a small phone, but in a different dimension than the one Apple is optimizing for. I don’t care if the phone is a bit chunky: I just want the height and width to be smaller. The Walkman w800 series was a fantastic size.

Still have my W800. It was a marvel at the time, still is really. The only thing that irked me what the proprietary connector - which has perished now.

This ship has sailed, 90% of the population uses their phone as their primary computing device, and wants large screens.

In fact an increasing number of people seem to want 2 large screens in their phone.

Do you really think it's 90%, in the west? Only 10% of workers are sitting in front of a computer all day?

Regardless. Apple tried, they made the 12 Mini and 13 Mini. Very few people bought it. A few million units is not interesting at Apple's scale.

People want larger batteries and screens than small phones can offer.

(I was in camp 'small phones', but gave up when my 12 Mini had its best time.)

The iPhone 13 mini is a cute little device, I really like it, but its battery life is so abysmal — can not last even a half day.

Yeah, I had exactly the same issue with my 12 Mini, even when the battery was still new.

How much are you using your phone daily to run down the battery like that? My 13 mini regularly goes a day and a half.

The 12 & 13 mini with their 5.4 inch screens are huge. The SE 2nd & 3rd generation at 4.7 is already too big. The 1st SE's 4 incher was probably a little too small, but a slightly bigger form factor combined with thinner bezels would probably allow for a screen of about 4.2-4.5 which should be perfect.

I'm pretty sure that statistic is for personal devices, not what they use at work.

I don’t know of many doing their taxes from a work computer.

I dont use my phone as my primary computing device, but I still like larger screens. My 6.7"-display phone fits nicely into my pocket, the large screen works well as my bike computer display and I like reading books with it and it also has space for more battery capacity.

> This ship has sailed, 90% of the population uses their phone as their primary computing device, and wants large screens.

Same with the camera, and that’s why the bump will exists for a long while.

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