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Islam isn't a big factor in the Ukraine Russia conflict, it's not a big factor in US domestic politics (which are tilting toward military conflict), it's not a big factor in Asian geopolitics. IF you want to make a point about Islam that's one thing, but ignoring the larger context and harping on your pet issue is distracting and rude. You could at the very least acknowledge the existence of the bigger picture and situate your concerns as a specific part of it.
I’m pointing out that a discussion about ‘high ground’ that ignores that it’s a subjective discussion where there are numerous other factions with wildly conflicting views of it is not a useful discussion.
And that the Islamic vs Western world split is a classic example where people seem to insist on projecting their western (often Christian derived if not strictly so) views onto a rather diametrically opposed set of values and then acting surprised when ‘the other side’ goes ‘WTF, no’ or even acts in ways that they consider abhorrent - but are not surprising if you actually know what is going on.
That people even consider this a religious flamewar (apparently) is quite hilarious because if you actually read the Koran and Hadiths, or have spent much time around many Muslim societies these aren’t even (generally) contentious things I’m talking about!
For example - you just don’t draw a picture of Mohammed. Especially not if it’s making fun of him, but even if it’s flattering, just don’t.
If you’re in a culture that has major Muslim influences, this is very very obvious. It’s not a flamewar topic, but it doesn’t come up much - for the same reason most people don’t talk about slapping strangers in the face either.
It’s still a thing. As are the calls to prayer. And not gooning on random Muslim women. And a hundred other things.
War pushes us into actions where we abandon the moral high ground, even as defined by us. That's part of the horror of war - we become monsters.
WW2 and the Japanese, as someone noted, provide many examples. For example, to the Japanese, the Allies taking prisoners was ritual humiliation - and death with a sword in their hand would have been preferable.
Sometimes, your high ground is another’s sewer (or even your own), and there is nothing anyone can do to change that.
Isn’t systematically humiliating an entire group of enemies being a monster too? It’s literally banned by the Geneva convention!
In the end when conflicts like this happen, realpolitik/pragmatic application of force wins regardless.
This becomes especially destructive in very dense environments like urban centers, because the level of hiding that can happen becomes almost fractal.
The fight in Gaza is one recent example, as are the others.
I’m not surprised that Gaza has escalated to the point it has (total war, essentially), because Hamas can’t actually give up without losing their entire identity and reason for being, for example. And the factions in Israel can’t back down without winning or ‘it would have all been for nothing’.
Or are you referring to tactics, because there are actual religions reasons/justifications for the nature of some specific tactics being used in Gaza.
Utter non sense.
You misunderstand both what Islam is about, the place it gives to the prophet and how sharia works.
Sharia explicitly protects non believers. Did you fail to notice that Jews lived for ages in the various Islamic empires?
As a non Muslim who has lived in majority Muslim countries multiple times, I’m shocked you can actually live in one and come out with such large misconceptions.