Hacker News Reader

Comment by WD-42 | Hacker News Reader

Datastar always rubbed me the wrong way. The author was constantly pushing it in the HTMX discord, telling anyone who would listen that if they liked HTMX how great Datastar would be for them. Some pretty classy comments from them on reddit too:

> It was a full rewrite. Use the beta release forever if it has all the tools you need. No one is stopping you.

> Open source doesn't owe you anything and I expect the same back.

View on HN

> The author was constantly pushing it in the HTMX discord, telling anyone who would listen that if they liked HTMX how great Datastar would be for them

You know who else does that? THE DEVELOPER OF HTMX! https://htmx.org/essays/alternatives/

> Some pretty classy comments from them on reddit too:

What is unclassy about those comments? Seem sensible to me...

Agree nothing unclassy. People have this strange expectation that an open source project is out there to serve every single person using it with total attention. It’s not, feel free to fork the beta and use it forever, make your own changes. The pro tier cost is a pittance for anyone using it for profit.

React and HTMX don't have a PRO tier.

Going to vouch for this. Why does it matter what other people do? This is such a non issue, you are free to fork it and do your own work. I actually believe more open source repos should tastefully have paid tiers to help pay for the continued work.

HTMX doesnt do half of what datastar does. And datastar's free version does 99% of what the pro version does

And react should be paying people to take on its immense performance and maintenance burden

React is literally maintained by a consortium of the world's biggest companies and before this Facebook/Meta. This is a ridiculous thing to say.

I feel like you can push your own thing in your own discord…

Something about riding the hype train for a fully open and free library you did not create to push your product just feels strange to me.

there is (or at least was) literally a dedicated Datastar channel in the htmx discord...

Which has since been archived. Last post from “Datastar CEO”. I mean cmon, it’s a little cringe. That meme is funny when it’s about HTMX. Like at least try your own memes instead of riding on Carson’s sense of humor too.

I dont disagree. I wouldn't dare try to follow in Carson's shitposting/memeing footsteps - that's a line far too fine for me to walk.

well Datastar started as an attempt to make HTMX an framework instead of just a library. It was part of the HTMX discord for years

Reply on news.ycombinator.com