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There was a Standford professor that was wondering why he had void of cancer patients around 63 and 64. Turns out people wait to get on Medicare for treatment because they cannot afford it with their standard health insurance.

USA would save money in the long run with Universal health care. Since people in the US wait until it gets bad before seeking treatment. This means fights cancer at stage 3 and 4 instead of 1 and 2. Latter the stage the more it costs and less likely for success.

This is one reason foreign doctors come to the US to study and train. Modern countries with Universal Health Care treat at stage 1 and 2 with 3 and 4 being rare ... except for the USA. Need to study advance cancer and aggressive, this USA is a great place.

[0] https://med.stanford.edu/news/all-news/2021/03/Cancer-diagno...

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> This is one reason foreign doctors come to the US to study and train. Modern countries with Universal Health Care treat at stage 1 and 2 with 3 and 4 being rare ... except for the USA. Need to study advance cancer and aggressive, this USA is a great place.

Is there any data supporting this? Cancer survival rates by country seems to go against your narrative.

https://worldpopulationreview.com/country-rankings/cancer-su...

For example, for stomach cancer, US has better cancer survival rates than Canada, and most of Europe (including the Scandinavian countries)

   1. USA: 33%
   2. Canada 29%
   3. Norway, Sweden, Finland: ~25%
   4. Germany ~33%
   5. Italy 30%

US has better survival rates for lung, breast, prostate cancer than most of the world. Look at the above link.

I have relatives who are doctors from outside the country, now in the US. None of them fall under your narrative.

Logically, the data disagrees with your narrative.

The reason why they came to the US is: 1) access to best research/tech; and 2) (of course) more money, and 3) most of the Western developed world is highly restrictive when it comes to immigration for doctors compared with US

This doesn't have anything to do with the thread, and hashing this out would tilt a story about Kryptos sharply towards a story on health policy. He's 79, he's very covered by Medicare.

Where is the rule that comments must stay on topic and avoid diversion? It was a more interesting and informative comment than yours that you've restated here (particularly given that being "very covered by Medicare" does not even counter what you originally replied to, as it will not cover all or perhaps even most costs)

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