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L6 is a senior engineer - typically effecting change and setting direction within a development team (or small group of related teams)

L7 is a principal engineer - typically effecting change at org level which will impact many teams

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Amazon skipping “staff” and jumping straight to “principal” seems like such title inflation

on the contrary it seems like title deflation as Amazon principal engineers typically work at a higher level than staff at most other orgs (at least I remember a Microsoft principal would be basically an Amazon L5-6 level)

Amazon L5 is SDE2. I am not sure how you can equate a Microsoft Principal to Amazon L5. Getting to L6 in Amazon is very easy these days due to title inflation. Managers also know how to rig the system to gather the data points for promotion. There was a time when Amazon promotion bar was high and Amazon SDE3 were considered same as Microsoft Principal. But things have changed now. A fresher needs only 2 promotions to get to L6. Some are getting there in 2-3 years. So Amazon L6 does not have the value that it used to have a decade ago. At Microsoft a fresher will need 6 promotions to reach Principal level. People are reaching principal levels early, but not in 2 years.

Note that these are Amazon's definitions - at many companies L5 is Senior SWE and L6 is usually a lead or a step towards staff engineer.

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