nothing to see here folks let's move on shall we
>they know that they are lying,
>they even know that we know they are lying,
>we also know that they know we know they are lying too,
>they of course know that we certainly know they know we know they are lying too as well,
>BUT THEY ARE STILL LYING.
>The lie has become not just moral category, but the pillar industry of this country [Russia]."
—Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn on vranyo [0] emphasis/formatting mine
[0] https://www.amazon.com/Gulag-Archipelago-1918-1956-Investiga...
Though that quote is pretty good. Works well for liberal democracies in modern times
I love differing perspectives, am retired, and will read it.