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China has been a stable and reliable trading partner with Canada for a long time. Canada is far too small a country to produce everything it needs within it's own borders. If anyone ever declares war on Canada then we're toast, so we're best not going out of our way to make enemies with the world's dominant superpowers –one of which is actively threatening our sovereignty.

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China is always willing to dump, tariff and subversively coerce its way into hollowing industries. This is not stable nor reliable. It is aggressive and a national security threat.

They infiltrate civil society through their networks of “police stations” and the Confucius Institute with the aim of placing sycophants in positions of power.

They aren’t our friends, and Canadian civil society needs to recognize that.

They especially aren't our friends if we go out of our way to make enemies with them. Why would we do that? It doesn't make any sense. It's a small world, China isn't going anywhere, we're stuck living on the same planet as them. They aren't going to have less of an influence on our affairs in the future going forward.

Canada has a long standing problem. The only thing we've ever been good at is natural resource extraction. Ironically we have several world class universities producing very talented people and IP, and the vast majority of it goes to the states to make money. Then here in Canada we carry on digging stuff out of the ground.

> China is always willing to dump, tariff and subversively coerce its way into hollowing industries.

So, you are saying they arw like USA right now, except more predictable?

It's been 20 years, what cheap Chinese goods have raised in prices? The china dump accusation is retarded at this point, the reality is PRC is manufacturing superpower who permanently reduces costs for the simple reason they need affordable prices for domestic market that incidentally makes them stupid competitive. Now if your argument is we should erect protectionist walls to protect industrial base, that makes sense. But Canadian auto base is tied to US and US doesn't want to share anymore which means dead Canadian auto. The option left is to take cheap Chinese EVs, do some sort of Canadian JV where we capture some value vs potentially losing car manufacturing completely. PRC probably fine with that, their "dumping" is selling cars abroad for 2x domestic MSRP, they can feasibly live with splitting that 2x while US wants it all.

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