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> In my opinion, the fact that Apple is now selling a bag to carry your oversized phone around in, is an admission that they failed to make phones that are convenient to carry.

Can any woman with a purse or man with a fanny pack chime in and let us know if they've ever thought about putting their phones in their bags before?

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Blazers and sport coats.

They’re purses you can wear that also tend to make you look better.

They’re friggin’ great, and even the largest smart phones easily fit their hip pockets.

No more keys poking you through jeans pockets. No more sitting on your wallet. Even room for a smallish paperback book.

We never should have moved away from them. They’re a utility garment.

What if you're in 30 °C weather?

High twist wool, unlined, adds basically zero heat (“summer weight wool” is a term that may include all these qualities). Doesn’t even do much to block wind (but does block the sun, a bit!). Totally fine in that range. That’s before resorting to something like an unstructured linen jacket (ever seen Lawrence of Arabia? Those guys are wearing plenty of clothing in the heat, a linen jacket is nothing) or warm-weather cottons like a seersucker (I’ve not bothered with any of that for jackets, myself, as light wool does fine for me, though I have several other pieces in linen).

Hell I own sweaters that are totally comfortable up to about that point, and higher if there’s a breeze. It’s all about construction and fabric.

Is this supposed to dispute the claim? A man putting his phone in his fanny pack would also signify apple's phones are inconvenient to carry. Apple releasing a 'solution' is them admitting it

No, it's supposed to point out that there exists an entire set of people who have been putting their phones in bags for as long as phones have existed. We mostly don't hear from women here on HN thanks to old gender biases in tech.

> Apple releasing a 'solution' is them admitting it

Apple released a collaboration with a fashion brand.

i'm not sure i get the point here. at some point, i don't want to be carrying something by holding it in my hand. i might need to use my hand for something else. so I put the item down, or put it in a container that I bring with me (pocket, shoulder bag, etc). Are they 'admitting' that people move around with things and sometimes have more than one purpose for their hands during an outing?

Yes, I do this because when I'm using my bike to get into work as it often involves more than one set of clothes and swapping everything between different pockets is annoying so I have a big 'unipocket' fanny pack, my 6.7" phone is still cumbersome in there making digging out other items annoying. And when I'm wearing some pairs of pants and the phone isn't angled just right it will dig into my hip while walking up stairs until it's adjusted. (and that's with a relatively budget android phone, smaller devices are a tiny niche of old less powerful devices that barely have support)

I have a fanny pack. I usually put my phone, a notebook, my wallet, some band-aids, and a couple diapers. Sometimes I add a charger if I think I'll need it. It's quite convenient, and I basically don't put anything in my pockets. Phone sits on its charger or in the bag, usually.

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