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Exactly. And the OpenAI corporates speak acting like they give a shit about our best interests. Give me a break, Sam Altman. How stupid do you think everyone is?

They have proven that they are the most untrustworthy company on the planet

And this isn't AI fear speaking. This is me raging at Sam Altman for spreading so much fear, uncertainty, and doubt just to get investments. The rest of us have to suffer for the last two years, worrying about losing our jobs, only to find out the AGI lie is complete bullsh*t.

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To me, no company has the customers’ best interests in mind. This whole thing is akin to when Apple was refusing to unlock phones for the FBI. Of course, Apple profits by having people think that they take privacy seriously, and they demonstrate it by protecting users’ privacy. Same thing here; OpenAI needs chats to have some expectation of privacy, especially because a large use case of AI is personal advice on things. So they are fighting to make sure it's true.

Both OpenAI and NYT are bad. I don't know about NYT's privacy policy, because that's not really the industry they're in, but they did admit to fabricating a story that led to a now 2-year-long war, so.

Yes, but I think at least in this instance, OpenAI needs people to think that what they ask ChatGPT is private. They will have no business model if everyone thought that whatever private question they ask could fall into the hands of a media company and be used for anything. Also, at least when I signed up, you had to provide either a highly trusted email address or phone number to sign up, so your identity is definitely attached to whatever question you ask ChatGPT. They know how high the stakes are for them in this suit.

Which story is this?

The Story Behind the New York Times October 7 Exposé https://share.google/2HB4zPEGi7x3JTYyj

And their followups

https://theintercept.com/2024/01/28/new-york-times-daily-pod...

https://theintercept.com/2024/03/04/nyt-october-7-sexual-vio...

> Both OpenAI and NYT are bad.

Both -1 and -1,000,000 are negative numbers.

We need to be careful and mindful of our framing. Saying "X is bad" is a drastic oversimplification and not necessarily useful. Pointing at any one company and saying "bad" doesn't move the needle much in terms of figuring out how to steer us towards better outcomes. For that, we have to identify incentives and understand motivations.

> To me, no company has the customers’ best interests in mind.

Lavabit opted to stop operating rather than give the FBI access to client emails.

https://archive.ph/20200915083857/https://www.nytimes.com/20...

You got downvoted for this? That many people are doing 'Leave Sam Altman alone!'? kinda wild

It's weird. It went up and down and up and down. Controversial POV. But thanks for the support. Sam Altman's just too dishonest. It's been said time and time again by so many people, by Paul Graham, Ilya Sutskeve, everybody's telling everybody he's dishonest. When are we going to wake up and get this guy out of there?

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