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Comment by donglong | Hacker News Reader

can you define "constant"

Well, between AWS US EAST 1 killing half the internet, and this incident, not even a month passed. Meanwhile, my physical servers don't care and happily serve many people at a cheaper cost than any cloud offer.

We had an Azure outage in between those 2 as well.

How do you back up?

We have a few colocated servers offsite, each in a different region, each with a zpool of mirrored spinning rust. We use rsync across those at different times.

never build on us-east-1, everyone knows that ;)

You realize these are two different companies right? If you’re saying “I’m an AWS customer with cloudflare in front” I think you’ve failed to realize that two 99.9% available services in series have a combined availability of ~99.8% - that’s just math.

Your physical servers should have similar issues if you put a CDN in front unless the physical server is able to achieve a 100% uptime (100% * 3 9s = 3 9s). Or you don’t have a CDN but can be trivially knocked offline by the tiniest botnet (or even hitting hacker news front page)

I do. But I put both into the "cloud offering off-prem for very much money" shoebox. I setup a CDN once using VPS from different hosting providers for under 100 USD a month, which I would vastly prefer over trusting anything cloud.

And yes, I know that there's sites that need the scale of an operation like Cloudflare or AWS. But 99.9(...)% of pages don't, and people should start realizing that.

People who don't need that, also don't care much for an hour or two of service disruption. Most users will have far worse disruptions with the alternatives.

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