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The feds want to make it illegal to even possess an anarchist zine

theintercept.com

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"Beware he who would deny you access to information, for in his heart, he dreams himself your master." - Commisioner Pravin Lal, Alpha Centauri

It's crazy how good the writing in that game is and how applicable it is today. It makes me wonder who wrote it and what their influences were.

According to Wikipedia, the writing was (mostly?) by Brian Reynolds [1]. There's an interview [2] which is linked to by the Wikipedia page about the game [3].

[1]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brian_Reynolds_(game_designer)

[2]: https://web.archive.org/web/20050221102608/http://pc.ign.com...

[3]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sid_Meier%27s_Alpha_Centauri#I...

Hey! that reminds me that the copy of the anarchists cook book that I previously liberated, had liberated from me, and now back in my possesion, giot me a vaugley worded warning from ebay, but that there are copy's for sale on abe books

but ya a bunch of people demonstrating against masked armed thugs abducting and killing people on the streets of america, are are afraid of paper. sounds about right.

Is this a valid charge? Are the same people doing both of those things?

ICE is killing people on the streets and in captivity, but you will have to.dig down hard to find the cases which is why they are so afraid of the protestors calling the thugs out as the psychos they often are, like the deviants that worked "security" at the truely peversly named GHF, yep, sending them right back out on americas streets after going on a child murder safari in gaza good luck with that!

What does this have to do with my question?

I asked if it's true to suggest the people demonstrating against ICE are the same people afraid of speech.

ok, it looks like you are extra literal,linear thinking, and blind to context and inferance, which is fine as I resemble that by times, myself so ICE is seeking to criminaly prosecute a person who was captured outside of a protest and detained and there property confescated which included a magazine, created and published by protestors and/or there assosiates, the crime ICE has invented, is carrying a magazine. This is a case where exactly the same people conducting the GAZA genoside are running operations in the US, useing the same methods to justify there actions, and the public responses are very similar to the civilian response in Palestine, where people are closing up there businesses and vacating the streets when the goons show up. The point bieng, that the US cant export it's contradictions any longer and is quite litteraly, going to hell. MADGA,make america's depression great again*

*now with AI hardware

At the same time administration not labeling swastika as a hate symbol.

Yes, well, you see, the swastika is a symbol of fascism, which is pro-state, while anarchists are against the state. So one is okay and the other is not. Simple! /s

The second paragraph of the article contradicts the title. There, it is stated that the charges are against a husband for removing evidence (presumably circumstantial evidence) against his wife. Evidence tampering is always illegal, even if it is a box of ideological literature (which presumably would be used to establish motive).

The article continues to argue the point:

> Sanchez was charged following a search that ICE proclaimed on social media turned up “literal insurrectionist propaganda” he had allegedly transported from his home to an apartment, noting that “insurrectionary anarchism is regarded as the most serious form of domestic (non-jihadi) terrorist threat.” The tweet also said that Sanchez is a green card holder granted legal status through the Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals program.

> The indictment claims Sanchez was transporting those materials to conceal them because they incriminated his wife. But how can possession of literature incriminate anyone, let alone someone who isn’t even accused of anything but being present when someone else allegedly fired a gun? Zines aren’t contraband; it’s not illegal to be an anarchist or read about anarchism. I don’t know why Sanchez allegedly moved the box of documents, but if it was because he (apparently correctly) feared prosecutors would try to use them against his wife, that’s a commentary on prosecutors’ lawlessness, not Sanchez’s.

This is some serious mental gymnastics. Possessing "legal" goods can absolutely be circumstantially incriminating. Carrying around a bat can be circumstantial evidence of a crime. Carrying lockpicks (in CA at least) is legal, but carrying them around a neighborhood where you don't live at 2am is going to get you brought to the police station.

I feel like you are ignoring the bit where this is presented as "the most serious form of domestic (non-jihadi) terrorist threat."

Also "someone who isn’t even accused of anything"

I understand how one might use a bat to hurt someone or break something. I understand how one might use lockpicks to steal something. I don't understand how one might use a magazine or pamphlet to shoot a police officer.

https://archive.fo/KEoxE

I think this was a headline in the german Der Stürmer newspaper back in 1933.

if they followed the content of the bible they would ban it for being anti-fascist too

Overall: Another FTZ with yet another disposable travesty headline floating summary elimination of traditional civil liberties to make it impossible to defend against N fronts legally or media-wise.

The current environment is enabling and permitting this kind of chaos in various domains:

Trad and social media: Owned by partisan shills, skewing algorithms for maximum profits, and massive merger consolidations forming monopolies that were previously illegal.

Government - executive - leadership / law enforcement: "Feds want" when the Feds don't understand how 1a works is a problem beyond the obvious other ones. The problem here is when there is a lack of meaningfully-independent law enforcement and prosecution service at the highest level, causing paths of appeal to a reliable higher authority in legal and police matters seems far more closed than they've ever been.

Government - legislative: Weak, corrupt Congress not pushing back effectively or getting much of anything done. The House has very little legislative power in modern times apart from a few special powers because the Senate wields the filibuster and tiny states have disproportionate power. Tiny state Senate seats are also easier to flip by buying up TV and radio stations, tailored disinformation campaigns, and advertising.

Government - judiciary:

Recently, Judge Jerry E. Smith on the 5th Circuit Court of Appeals launched into a tirade of antisemitic dog whistles ("George Soros" 17x) and personal attacks unbecoming of a professional, ethical jurist in the dissent of the Texas unscheduled racist gerrymandering reversal that's likely going up on appeal to SCOTUS for them put their 6 partisan hack thumbs on the scale. [0]

Anyhow, I guess Spam Blondi and co. need to see and hear a big print picture comic book adaptation of Fahrenheit 451 story hour on the steps of the Capitol or the JEH building given their apparent lack of understanding of 1a.

0. PDF https://electionlawblog.org/wp-content/uploads/gov.uscourts....

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