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It does though. That’s a separate issue from the inevitable layoffs and any bugs introduced along the way, but he’s not wrong.

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Speak for yourself. I think he's extremely wrong

I think if all you care about is the outcome then sure, you might enjoy AI coding more

If you enjoy the problem solving process (and care about quality) then doing it by hand is way, way more enjoyable

If you don’t care about outcome then all you’re doing is playing a video game.

Sure, but the headline wasn't "Google CEO says ‘vibe coding’ made software development ‘so much less like a video game.’" In fact since many people think video games are enjoyable, making software development less gamelike might make it less enjoyable.

(But would further gamification make it more enjoyable? No, IMO. So maybe all we learn here is that people don't like change in any direction.)

If writing code by hand is like playing a videogame, then vibe coding is like playing a slot machine

Argue about the value of video games all you like, I would still place them above slot machines any day

I think we’re mixing our metaphors here, what I mean is at the end of the day you write code to get some result you actually care about, or that matters for some material reason. Work is labor at the end of the day. If you don’t care about that outcome or optimizing for it, then you may as well play a video game or code golf or something. What you now want is a hobby.

> If you don’t care about that outcome or optimizing for it,

I do care about the outcome, which is why the thought of using AI to generate it makes me want to gouge my eyes out

In my view using AI means not caring about the outcome because AI produces garbage. In order to be happy with garbage you have to not care

It depends on how you use it. I was running 15 agents at once, 12 hours a day for a month straight because it was more optimal to add more, and that wasn't very enjoyable. Now I'm back to writing code the enjoyable way, with minor LLM assistance here and there.

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