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How did we come to the place that the most transparent and open models are now coming out of China—freely sharing their research and source code—while all the American ones are fully locked down

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China needs to build the world's trust and respect, while the US is slowly but surely losing theirs.

slowly?

Over reliance on investors who demand profits more than engineering.

The best innovation always happens before being tainted by investment.

Because the whole framing of US vs China as open vs closed was never correct to begin with.

The US is more law and finance led and the first thing seems to be to get an IP advantage and raise money. China I guess less so - they are famously lax on IP and everyone copies everything.

Because the entire US economy is being propped up by AI hype.

The money would have gone somewhere. The "smart" money went to AI. Don't get fooled.

everybody looks smart in a bull market

The US companies are all basically GPUaas. I’m not sure what the financial model is here, but I like it.

Short cheeky answer is that capitalists need to capture value and communists don’t. Less cheeky answer is that this is a good opportunity for China to make sure the world isn’t dominated by US-sourced AI models.

However in another way the US probably offers more free inference than China. What good is an open 600 billion parameter model to a poor person? A free account with ChatGPT might be more useful to them, though also more exploitative.

> How did we come to the place that the most transparent and open models are now coming out of China—freely sharing their research and source code—while all the American ones are fully locked down

Greed and "safety" hysteria.

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