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Depends on who you ask! That's what I mean by "narratives". There's plenty of corroborating evidence that there was a large demonstration and riots. After that it gets hazy because different officials are claiming fatalities and casualties as high as 10k and as low as 300 all with differing ratios of soldier and student casualties. Wouldn't the numbers and/or ratios be similar if they were looking at the same facts?

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Obviously the CCP is going to lie about how many of their own people they massacred.

I dunno, the US routinely just states plainly how many people they massacre and folks in the US seem okay with it.

I'd assume that when the Chinese do bad things people in China feel the same way about that as folks in the US feel about the US doing evil stuff, which is to say "very little at all". Why would they need to lie, any more than the US needs to lie? Do the average Chinese folks have more conscience then the average US citizen?

"the US routinely just states plainly how many people they massacre and folks in the US seem okay with it."

What a nonsensical thing to say. The CCP ruthlessly sensors all discussion of the massacre and every LLM created in China sensors it. So stop it with the BS whataboutism

I'm saying there's a massive disagreement both among western sources and between western sources and Chinese sources. The disagreement among western sources is what makes their reporting look made up. I'm not saying I believe what China has reported.

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