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Russia invading Europe would be America's war?

Is America allied with Russia or Europe in this scenario? That's probably not what the parent comment meant, though.

Not really. I meant that America has triggered this war, like pretty much all wars on this planet since the end of the global anti fascist war. Thus, Europeans being good little servants, they will die for Washington.

Congratulations, USSR, young people have forgotten you entirely! /s

That said, it is still insultingly wrong to blame even America and the USSR together for starting 'all wars on the planet' since WWII.

To quote the great historians Chris Hughes and Roland Orzabal: "everybody wants to rule the world"

Honestly, even intra commie wars were also triggered by the US Empire, and for these, Soviets were extraordinary foolish, I will give you that. But I stand my ground; behind the vast majority of wars since WW2, there is the American architect.

We'll have to agree to disagree. Cheers.

Yes. After all, Europe is under NATO occupation, the same NATO whose leader is no one than America.

Nobody would take seriously the characterization of Europe being under a NATO 'occupation'.

That said, for the first half of my life, much of Europe was under a literal occupation by Russia.

As a reminder: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Berlin_Wall

The Soviet Union rather than Russia. Subtle distinction, but tens of millions of Soviets were not Russian.

Technically true, but 'Russia' works fine, in practice.

Not just technically true, but the reality for vast areas such as the Ukraine and Kazakhstan etc which existed even then. There were numerous cities such as Vilnius or Dushanbe where most of the population did not speak Russian as a first or even native language or consider themselves Russian. It's like when people watch/read "Hunt for Red October" and call Captain Ramius a Russian... He isn't one, and it's a pretty key plot point that he isn't one, hence he defects.

I don't know what to tell you. We used 'Russians' and Soviets interchangeably during the Cold War, even if it was technically inaccurate.

I'm not sure if anyone remembers the song 'Russians' by Sting anymore, but that's a good example.

This is like someone correcting me for saying 'an LP' instead of 'a vinyl' despite my being an analog native :)

I'm sure you did. We did too. Some people still refer to Scotland, Wales and Northern Ireland as "England"... Or all of the Netherlands as "Holland".

You're deep in the technically correct wordplay words, while the rest of us are discussing actual death of millions.

Congrats, you follow the dictionary more closely, even if you added nothing of substance.

If you are doubting these statements of mine, how about you look up the great evils the American govt has inflicted unto Americans themselves? I'd start with MKULTRA, the Kent State massacre and go through COINTELPRO files. Then you will slowly be able to move on to US-led election frauds in Europe, and NATO-funded nazi death squads in Switzerland.

Those examples are so tame that it would be absurd to continue. Wikipedia has plenty of information on the USSR - its gulags, war crimes, repression, etc.

Oh yes, ofc, I have forgotten the 100mio who died of Communism. My bad! Funnily enough, the millions of soldiers who fought for it against nazism are counted as part of the death-by-communism. Same for the aborted babies, or the pedo and fascist filth who were rightfully imprisonned. Basically, everyone who dies under communism dies because of it, right? Unlike those who die under fascism, or of malnutrition, or of cold because they are unhoused by the West, those dont count towards death-by-capitalism, obviously.

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