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Meanwhile Grandma says: "what's a wayland?"

How can anybody seriously argue Linux is an OS ready for ordinary users when you have to do crap like this? Complete delusion.

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Your grandma doesn't need to know what wayland is to use linux. This is an enthusiast forum for people interested in this exact topic.

This post shows that she does, if she is unfortunate enough to own a device with NVIDIA graphics, because without this fix Wayland will be broken.

Of course, this is only one example of probably hundreds where an average user would have no clue how to fix their broken computer.

It doesn't. And you shouldn't install Arch on your grandma's computer.

This isn't Linux, it's Arch running Hyprland. If Grandma wants that combination she knows what Wayland is.

If you want Linux that works, get a Chromebook. If you want to play games, use Bazzite.

ChromeOS is a far better "Grandma" distribution than Windows or MacOS. Linux is simultaneously both the most Grandma friendly and least Grandma friendly, including every point in between.

You need to compare apples to apples, aka pre-installed vendor supported operating systems. If you're comparing installing an unsupported OS on unsupported hardware, Linux is far superior. Try installing MacOS on a Windows computer or Windows on a Mac if you're truly masochistic.

Are you saying windows and macos do not have any bugs? I have news for you.

Also wevare talking here about archlinux + hyperland compositor, not the typical Fedora, Mint or Ubunti/Zorin distro. Tinkerer's gonna tinker while the other users just use their computer regardless of the OS.

Linux isn't a single OS. It's hundreds of different and weird combinations.

There are Linux distributions that are better than Windows or iOS for grandma to use as well as distributions where you need to be an expert to do anything.

It doesn't matter, your options are either X11 or a Wayland-based compositor, both of them come with their respective headaches that a regular user has NO IDEA how to fix.

>both of them come with their respective headaches that a regular user has NO IDEA how to fix.

Unlike Windows, right? Right? Guys?

You're making this issue much bigger than it is in reality.

Dare I say that you frankly have NO IDEA what the experience on modern Linux is today.

This is only accurate for people who choose enthusiast-centric DIY distributions such as Arch.

“Regular” users have plenty of distribution choices where there are zero of these types of headaches.

> a regular user has NO IDEA how to fix.

Buy hardware that supports Linux and you won't have to think about it.

At this point hardware incompatibility is a self-imposed problem.

The only easier one is ChromeOS

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