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Microsoft is really changing my view of them. I find myself loving the time & effort they're putting into developer resources. I guess the sleeping giant wasnt sleeping after all

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Microsoft has always had great developer resources for their proprietary platforms. Whats changing is they are being forced to embrace open standards/platforms due to market realities.

Can the same be said of Adobe? I've noticed Adobe releasing quite a few web based technologies recently. Brackets and Edge being two examples.

I think thats a fair comparison to make. They have put out a pretty modern toolset here aimed at frontend developers/designers http://html.adobe.com/

Like Microsoft they also seem to embrace responsive design.

Adobe's even gotten Flash to export HTML5 animations. (with Grant Skinner's CreateJS library)

http://www.adobe.com/devnet/createjs/articles/getting-starte...

Who'd have thought Flash would become part of an HTML5 developer's workflow?

They currently have phone gap and the relayed build service which let's you make an html5 app and build to native for every mobile platform

I feel the same. Here in Boston, they have an awesome facility called New England Research & Development (NERD) where they often host and sponsor lots of tech and startup meetups. They seem to be very active in the Boston startup scene.

There's a Microsoft store in Phoenix that's been playing host for some user groups lately, and don't think they're all MS-software related.

I have to agree, the UX Guidelines document of Win 8 apps is really well thought out and put together. (http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/windows/apps/hh46542...) - we live in interesting times....

Also interesting that some of the tutorials are showing Linux screenshots. E.g. http://buildnewgames.com/taming-the-svg-beast/ shows the graphics being developed in Inkscape on Ubuntu.

That's probably because this site isn't strictly run by MS, it's run by another company and "brought to you with support from Internet Explorer". Microsoft's had a big focus on this kind of cross-browser support recently, though. With some of the games made for IE9, they also made sure they worked properly in Chrome, Firefox, etc.

Also, some of the articles mention things that don't work in IE but do work elsewhere (like the ammo.js physics library). I am quite impressed that Microsoft is sponsoring this.

Are you using IE9 or IE10? IE10 supports lots of stuff IE9 doesn't.

I'm going by what the article says (it said "doesn't work in IE"). I don't have a windows machine to test on myself.

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