Hacker News Reader

Comment by Nextgrid | Hacker News Reader

The whole “blaming Gen Z” thing is getting old. You get what you pay for.

You’re likely offering “market rate” roles. You’re getting “market rate” candidates and behavior. It’s like walking into a Fiat dealership and being mad you’re not getting Ferrari treatment.

If you want better you are welcome to pay more and then maybe people will have less incentives to ghost you. The Ferrari treatment still exists, you just need to pay for it.

The job market didn't get rude, it just regressed to the mean. "Rude" is the default; when one side shows respect it's likely for the other side to reciprocate. When one side doesn't, there is little reason for the other side to put in the effort.

View on HN

Gotta love how "market rate" is about 60% of what you need to qualify to rent an apartment these days.

And of course the roles are hybrid specifically to prevent you from living in a location where you can actually afford rent.

The sad part is that over-regulation and taxes have put us in this situation, but the same politicans keep getting voted in, time and time again.

Is rude really the default? I thought respect was, especially during the initial stages of a professional exchange like a god damned job interview.

Rude is the default if you optimise everything down to perfection to prioritise profit, which tech is really good at doing. After all, that extra second you’d spend being courteous could be used to make the line go up and create shareholder value instead.

"maybe people will have less incentives to ghost you. The Ferrari treatment still exists, you just need to pay for it."

No need. I just find more capable and reliable older workers.

Most people I know in different industries are doing the same

You are still paying for the Ferrari treatment by hiring older workers in terms of better working conditions: those workers are wiser to the usual corporate bullshit, are unlikely to be doing unpaid overtime because they "believe" in the "mission", require better work/life balance and are financially-secure enough to afford to tell you off if you cross the line.

Not to say it's a bad thing, it's great if you managed to get your company to deliver a working environment that attracts and retains older workers, just pointing out from experience with techbros that the reason older/more experienced workers are avoided (or just don't apply in the first place) is precisely for this reason - techbros explicitly don't want someone who can afford to defend their boundaries, they'd rather take someone who's too naive or financially-insecure to say no.

Reply on news.ycombinator.com