>after suffering a complete utter defeat, suffering and destruction

And if you were willing to be utterly destroyed in order to utterly destroy Russia, then maybe this would work?

But at that point you've succumbed to exactly what you were trying to prevent. Ie - Your own destruction.

What we, at least we in the US, want is to figure out how to turn Russia towards peace without being utterly destroyed.

That's what the difficulty is.

We, on this side of the pond, prefer ideas that don’t involve national suicide.