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> I presume they have reasons,

They vote with the one party because they didn't had a lot of problems with it in power and, when they voted something else, it was worse.

Between two evils, people prefer the "familiar" one. Works the same in Europe's "democracies".

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Nah. This is not true. They voted, because they looked forward the harm to liberals and cities and lgbt and women who dont conform and non whites. They wanted other to be harmed and openly talked about it. They thought they will be harmed only a little, like the last time.

Historically, republicans were not making policies good for them. By they promissed to be cruel and that was appealing.

And every single time there is discussion from liberals talking about rural voters, they have to mention that they know whats best for them, how they vote against their interests. I keep telling them this strategy doesn't work. The smugness is real and all it does is a) push people farther away and b) get everyone who thinks like you to give you internet karma, both worthless.

So what's the alternative strategy that gets them over to ""woke""?

Well the first thing is removing identity politics, especially in replies or discussions.

Also, not viewing it as "Come to my side". This isn't star wars, rebellion vs empire.

Convenient shorthand for a huge number of issues. OK then, how about convincing them to support:

- impeachment and prosecution for high level corruption (e.g. the Presidential cryptocurrency)

- prosecution of constitution-violating police and Federal paramilitaries, e.g. in Minnesota?

- leaving LGBT people alone legislatively (at this point I'm not going to ask for improvements, just that the situation not be made worse)

This is a lot of it. Urban liberals see rural working class as backward and racist and uncultured. Just having a non-coastal accent (eg southerners) is treated as a marker of low character in our media. I recall how GW Bush’s accent was treated, as do many rural voters. Look at the discussion here, it’s about “those people” being too dumb to vote for their own interests. Unsurprisingly, people resent that.

Ok, let's talk about identity politics. It started with people bringing their religion in to their lawmaking. Let's ditch that first and see what else we need to do.

Removing identity politics? The American right can't shut up about the 'woke agenda', about how the gays/immigrants/foreigners/whomever are destroying the country.

How exactly do you propose to remove identity politics? Do you have any concrete steps for it? Are you going to pull Fox & Friends - the primary drivers of identity politics off the air?

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