Cannabis usage in older adults linked to larger brain, better cognitive function
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I agree with your other points though.
Now that pot is legal in so many places, it's less likely to gateway to anything - like alcohol.
That's a bad example to make your point. Alcohol is absolutely a gateway drug. I know many a cigarette smoker who had their first cig puff while intoxicated around other drinkers who were smoking.
When a commonplace and socially accepted drug like alcohol can amplify poor judgement and inhibition, the sky's the limit for what unfolds next.
I think part of it is the crowd you end up in when you smoke weed. Unsurprisingly, drug use lends itself to putting you in situations with other drug users. These users often completely ignore, leave out, or outright lie about the downsides of these drugs, from chronic weed use to LSD.
But maybe its a pop-science kind of fact that I've been carring along all this time without factuality?
On the other hand, there's a certain creative groove that's a lot harder to get into now. So there's a tradeoff.
I was experiencing lack of dreaming after some time of daily use, and was able to regain my ability to consistently dream (and remember them) by simply ceasing cannabis use by 5pm each day. I don't experience noticeable problems with memory, but YMMV.
We all have anecdotes, and mine contradict yours.
All of the non-users of cannabis I know have terrible memory, and are often surprised by mine.
But when stoned, during that pause, I'm finishing with processing another thought that is already in my head. I find it harder to context-switch immediately when stoned. This is very different from my normal experience when sober, where my brain is very "flighty." The other time I notice this type of pause is when I've entered a "flow state," e.g. when deep in a programming project.
Sometimes I can leverage this "focus" into productivity when stoned, but then I am often equally likely to get focused on the wrong thing.
That said, it's well established that marijuana use acutely reduces your reaction time.
ive noticed most nonusers spit out automated responses, and have little to no recall of the conversation a few minutes after.
It feels different than that though. Its not unusual for someone to take beat before responding, but in that case there are facial and body cues that they heard you and are just getting their thoughts and words in order. But in the case of users, there is an expressionless pause even before that. More like blank pause, then facial cues of thinking, then an answer. That's why I used the 'via satellite' analogy because its like it takes longer for them to even register that they have been spoken to.
100% of my doctors say (incl. Director level at Mt Sinai and orthopedic surgeons for the Washington commnders) are more than delighted with my prescription
so like that’s just your opinion man
It definitely has negative effects long term. Concentration is impacted. In my case, it can cause anxiety. The impacts are subtle, but they’re there.
The negative side effects are definitely being underrepresented at the “non-scaremongering” parts of civilization.
For me, the downsides manifest as drarticlsly increased anxiety (I naturally have next to none), extremely poor sleep - I sleep but the sleep is so low quality it begins to feel like my brain barely works right, and the obvious one, the effects on your motivation. I naturally tend towards ADHD style dopamine chasing, and weed makes that about 100x worse. Instead of getting my work done, I will procrastinate with any number of cheap dopamine hits such as video games, internet sleuthing, etc.
You can just stop. Really. Go take a long trip somewhere weed is illegal (eg. Japan) and throw out your stash on the way out the door. You will be fine, maybe a little irritable for a couple days, but the trip will distract you and it'll be indistinguishable from typical jet lag symptoms. There is no biological dependence, unlike with most legal drugs such as alcohol, tobacco, benzos...
Have you tried blending in CBD?
Typically I smoke small joints with 90% CBD strains and the rest a high THC strain, only thing I can smoke.
When I travel internationally, often for periods of over a month, I don't use any cannabis at all.
During these times I experience no withdrawal symptoms or craving.
I abstained for over a year during a number of periods during those 50 years, due to specific job requirements and other situations where using weed would be viewed detrimentally.
If anything, I would say cannabis is one of the least "addictive" substances that create a euphoric experience.
Please remember the old adage: gateways work for both getting you out of, as well as into, other situations. I would say that cannabis would be a great substance to use daily for helping people abstain from more harmful substances.
In the US we have the ass-hat social acceptance of: Alcohol, tobacco and firearms, like the little baby jesus intended.
All three of which are VASTLY more dangerous and deadly than cannabis.
A more direct link to the article, which doesn't require "Are you a bot" authentication, or javascript:
https://news.cuanschutz.edu/news-stories/study-finds-cannabi...
This information is already readily available by studying the Rastafari in Jamaica. If there were serious negative impacts from daily consumption over a lifetime it would have been apparent in that cohort for decades.
Edit: down-voters do not allow me to dislike the smell. Hilarious! I'm at -2 now. Nice! I get it, i get it. I must love it.
I don't smoke weed but I had a roommate in college that smoked in the apartment 24/hours a day. The first week was unbearable. I could barely breath, my clothes reeked of weed, even my books reeked of it. But, after that first week, I didn't even notice the smell. Yeah, when he lit up I'd notice it for a second but nothing more than that.
Enough time has passed that I'm no longer noseblind to it but I wish I still were. I can smell it when the car ahead of me is smoking, I can smell it when the person on the other side of the bar recently smoked, hell, I can smell it in my car as soon as I start to approach my neighboring state where it's legal. At my last house I was tearing my hair out trying to catch the skunk or fox that made my yard reek every night during the summer. Of course, eventually I realized it coincided with my neighbors college-aged kid coming home for summer break and smoking in their room.
Anyone that says that cigarette smoke, perfume, car exhaust, people's breath in general, smell to any degree that weed does to non-smokers is incredulous. Just because you smoke and you don't recognize it, doesn't mean that everyone around you can't.
That aside, where I live my nearest neighbors are about half a mile away, and behind me is nothing but my forest as far as I can see(which isn't that much, because mountain ridges, but still ;-> ), and behind that national forest. When I descend into more densely populated areas, I'm not trailing clouds of purple haze behind me. Be it for reasons of preferred soberness while doing business, shopping, not driving under the influence, whatever.
At the same time I'm feeling undisturbed by most of the stuff, except sometimes for matters of taste. Thinking something like "Ugh! I'd never smoke that crap."
I'm sure there are places where you'd be less disturbed by stuff like that.
Maybe Park City, UT?
It hardly makes any sense to focus on the far smaller issue that doesn't seem to cause any issues apart from pearl clutching.
Whataboutism would be more like comparing cannabis odour to people who fart in lifts.
These two issues can coexist, but they're in completely different universes. Long-term air quality and vehicle pollution are systemic public-health problems. This is about basic courtesy and reasonable behavior in shared public spaces, especially around infants. One does not negate or diminish the other.
However, I do agree that people should be more wary around children and not subject them to second-hand smoke. The problem is that cannabis has such a strong smell that the smell is noticeable even when the amount of smoke exposure is likely not measurable.
Surely edibles work just as well?
I see people smoke all day all the time now and while driving and it clearly affects their judgement. I don’t know why legalization lead to “no moderation at all” and “I smoke at work”
Agreed completely on the day drinking point. That’s actually what got me to quit initially years ago. I realized, would I be drinking right now before work? Hell no. So why am I okay with getting high?
It's a bit like suggesting we are all addicted to water. Sure, enough of it will kill you, but that's not exactly helpful pedantry.
Read what any of your favorite musicians have to say about it. Check the science and testimony on it enhancing creativity and sensory experience, helping people see see themselves and the world from a new perspective - introspective development.
You know, the same sort of introspection that might make one wonder if your statement above says a lot more about you, and your values, than it does about cannabis enjoyers.
https://thereitis.org/mr-x-by-carl-sagan/
He originally wrote about it under a pseudonym for fear of professional consequences. Many such cases.
Yes, I know some of those. But usually they are either very light users or they achieved their success before becoming heavy users.
I also know some pretty heavy users that are adamant that they are doing better than before but their environment does not usually agree. This is a thing that is fairly common with heavy drug users though.
Hey buddy
I know lots of people that smoke heavily and I've watched their trajectory over decades. It's a sad story really. I'm pretty sure if you manage it responsibly the benefits may well outweigh the downsides but over the long term it really adds up.
Of course, everybody ages, and people are not usually as sharp as they were in their twenties or earlier. But given that I also have access to a sizeable control group where I don't see that effect I figure it has to have some factual basis too large to be just handwaved away.
Feel free to correct the fact that we haven't met in person by the way, you & yours are always welcome here.
> The work is published in the Journal of Studies on Alcohol and Drugs.
"Alcohol and drugs" is like saying "beef and meat".
Knowledge is knowing a tomato is a fruit, wisdom is knowing not to put it in a fruit salad.
re: the article itself, they concentrate only on brain regions which have high density of CB1 expression and that's reasonable. But CB1 is not the only CNS cannabinoid receptor (CB2 mostly expressed peripherally). There's also GPR55 which is activated by cannabinoids like THC. A little issue which could be addressed in future work.
Also who drinks alcohol without wanting at least some of the intoxication effects?
You would not drive in France for instance, because of the residual alcohol
Do they mean 'That is a slab.' or 'Hand me that slab.'?
Context matters. There is no correct answer. There are no metaphysical truth particles that shake 'True!'. Expressivism, how you feel about the statement, is going to decide what you think.
Anyway, I used to intentionally say things like "I love drugs, although its specifically Caffeine."
Wisdom is understanding that if there was legislation on the matter, and people who ate, produced, or sold non-tomato fruits were hunted and deprived of their freedoms by the state on the basis that fruits are bad for society, then you would likely see similar frustrations expressed about an article title that includes the phrase "tomatoes and fruits" to distinguish them.
Alcohol in moderation is relaxing. Most drugs, OTOH, when used at the doses that make them attractive to recreational drug users, impair reason, and impairing reason is not just stupid, but immoral. We can debate the particular methods by which the state regulates or otherwise deals with drug use, but there is nothing intrinsically wrong with the criminalization of such drugs as such. No one has a right to take drugs (there is no right to immorality). This may seem alien to a culture whose emaciated understanding of morality is exhausted by the concept of consent. The law is a teacher, and it is good to teach people that recreational drug use (and drunkenness) is a bad thing. Like all immorality, it is an insult to one's dignity and humanity.
We can tolerate the impairment of reason as a proportionate side effect [0] (for instance, high doses of morphine given to terminally ill patients in extreme pain), but this is not recreational use.
https://cheflindseyfarr.com/marinated-tomato-stone-fruit-sal...
(I second the recommendation of adding burrata.)
we have to operate in people space
But that's presumably why the parent commenter spoke up in the first place.
Industry-fueled self-delusion can be intercepted if we make the effort to do so.
> Was internet pedantry ultimately what helped you decide to quit?
No, at the time, the internet pedantry and the drinking actually helped fuel each other. Sober me now has more healthy limits regarding the internet, and I unplug when it becomes unhealthy instead of using it as an excuse to drink.
What ultimately helped me quit drinking was several things combined over a long enough time, including:
* in-person groups like AA (replacing the higher power stuff with an agnostic modification I found meaningful at the time) and S.M.A.R.T.
* online communities like /r/stopdrinking and /r/cripplingalcoholism
* regular therapy to target root causes like personal mental deficits (and how to re-wire my brain away from them) and other life struggles that were keeping me trapped in the cycle and fueling the addiction and symptoms of depression
Plenty of drugs, used in moderation, are also relaxing and can be enjoyable to the senses.
Alcohol, caffeine, nicotine, and marijuana products ARE drugs, not sure why people insist on making the distinction.
We see a distinction for that one, just like we do for alcohol.
this feels like reading tea leaves
It has no cred to me unless I can read it. Appeal to authority is the opposite of science.
Anyway, sounds like induction, it might be probabilistically true, but they don't have the theory to prove it. (Popper ruined me)
On the margin, this should reduce the risk of some brain diseases as you get older.
However as much as I love loud there are obvious downsides to daily use
Citations to the contrary:
https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC5576607/
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clinical_endocannabinoid_defic...
> The nature of the syndrome and existence of CECD as a clinically meaningful condition have been called into question by those who wish to roll back legal access.
I belong to the scepticists although I want cannabis to remain legal.
The symptom constellation of pain and the other mentioned has very complicated basis that almost any theory can be supported. In the meantime in my setting 95% of medical cannabis uses are recreational.
I don't think there is any controversy there is at least a weak link between intelligence and access to luxury goods.
In other news, occasional cigar smokers have slightly lower cancer rates. It aint the cigars...
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Edit: those talking about price being cheap in US: the data is from UK biobank. Unclear to me if that's actually UK citizens, but prices in UK are significantly higher than those quoting legal weed state prices. It appears those downvoting / rebutting are attempting to strong-arm a US centric view into foreign sourced data.
Using data from the UK Biobank, which includes health information from over 500,000 adults, associations between cannabis use, regional brain volume, and cognition in participants aged 40–70 years (mean age = 54.5) were evaluated.Weed was never a luxury substance. Cocaine and others are.
Because the hemp laws were poorly written, this product was legal in all 50 states
The 10mg THC drinks give a whiff of cannabis when you open one and produce an intoxication similar to smoking with an experience similar to drinking an alcoholic drink. It's more expensive than the cheapest beer, but similar to a reasonably priced wine or drink in a bar. Unfortunately these will be gone in most places by the end of 2026.
This can be said about any drug, but even then, heavy use of weed vs other drugs is absolutely cheaper, especially these days if you live in an area where it's legal and/or are willing to grow it.
(in other words)