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What companies value can change after they’ve grabbed their share. Just like how OpenAI changed their “constitution” about working with others.

I wish there was a way to hold companies accountable for stuff like that.

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Zulip being fully open-source and self-hostable helps this. It's what the Bluesky team have been calling "credible exit", and Zulip has it way more than Bluesky does.

On the other hand, I would love to see more tech companies being co-operatives, where their members get a say in governance. That'd be the ultimate hard-mode for a business that was dedicated to being rugpull-resistant.

Agree on wanting to see more tech companies being cooperatives but not sure what you mean by this:

> That'd be the ultimate hard-mode for a business that was dedicated to being rugpull-resistant.

Being a cooperative seems (having never run one) harder than being a regular private company. It seems like it would constrain a business from being able to do what it would otherwise want to do. So I think of it as doing business "on hard mode". I think it's socially worth doing, and I aspire to be part of one someday. But I don't think it comes for free, especially in a market where you'll compete with businesses that aren't also playing on hard mode.

I see, I agree with it too. I think that's why many tech projects prefer a "private company owned by a non-profit foundation" structure such as Mozilla and Signal as the examples off the top of my head.

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