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Dear Apple, no latency from brain to action is the greatest design you can possibly have. We want to feel one with the machine. That's the greatest joy and difference between a Mac and a Windows machine. Adding latency to the fastest machine possible is criminal. Please STOP DOING IT with unnecessary animations.

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I think you're in the wrong ecosystem if you don't like animations. Over the top animations have been at the core of Apple, I still remember the "drop in the water" animation of OS X Tiger's Dashboard. 20 years ago.

I think you're overselling it, the minimise? Sure.

But I can't think of a single animation that added a delay to processing on MacOS.

Compare to say, Windows, at least.

Try Liquid Glass on iphone. Absolutely horrible if you don’t turn off all the motion.

I don't find that to be the case.

The changes of Liquid Glass are the what everyone is complaining about, right? Previously they were OK at designing UI.

I was really nervous about the update to Liquid Glass based on comments like this but my experience has been really positive. I love the new contextual tooltip menu when I try to select text and other thoughtful details. Maybe there’s things I’m not bumping into?

I honestly don’t understand why Liquid Glass provokes so strong reactions. To me it’s not that radically different from the old design. I don’t love it, and I don’t hate it. There is nothing new that in any way impacts how I use or experience my iPhone, my iPad or my Mac. My reaction to Liquid Glass was pretty much a neutral “looks a little bit different, I guess” before forgetting about it.

For me it was (or is) funny. After update I had a lot of controls in the same color as background. Wondering why I can’t do some actions I took my friends phone and built in apps looked different than mine. Photos didn’t even show the top bar. Rebooted - I have it! Then photos started crashing every few days and I’m not heavy user. Currently I’m fed up, because Camera starts up once per 20-30 runs for more than 10 seconds (I wait to see if it will start in the end).

I was hater of Apple, then switched around 2018 to be happy user until 2025. Looking for Android brand that allows loading clean system to not get bad experience after few months like with Shitsung.

Switching desktops on MacOS is a >1 second long animation that blocks input which can't be disabled. It can only be replaced with a fade in/out which is just as long.

Unless you disable ProMotion in favor of static 60Hz. Then it’s reasonably fast again. It’s been broken like that for ages.

No, it’s >1 second on every machine.

I don’t know about your particular case, but there’s lots of people pointing to this exact issue.

https://apple.stackexchange.com/questions/438188/latency-whe...

I use their accessibility features to stop all animations I can. Maybe if more people upvote here they will hear us. No point in suffering in silence.

I agree with this entirely:

> no latency from brain to action is the greatest design you can possibly have. We want to feel one with the machine.

But... I used Windows growing up before switching to Linux, and I've been using a Macbook in recent years. Both Windows and Linux can be configured to run with no animation lag, but AFAIK this is just not possible in MacOS. I can't imagine doing anything serious on MacOS with animation log completely interrupting my train of thought or flow state.

I'm no Windows fan, but at least circa 2019, I know Windows 10 could be configured to be similarly snappy and free of laggy animations.

The greatest sin in MacOS is the immense lag when switching desktops ("Spaces"). It's a baffling design decision, I can't believe it's intentional.

The speed of the desktop switching animation also depends on the refresh rate of the monitor, by the way. Baffling.

Same applies to iPhones. Lag (animation) between action and result drives me crazy. Accessibility settings don't help much.

At least Android still allows you to set animation scale, for now.

Of course “Apple” isn’t listening here. Leave the upvote begging to reddit.

Apple has proper channels for this, including https://www.apple.com/feedback/macos/.

Given Apple has provided a workaround, don’t expect any changes.

Any competent product leader will look far beyond the bounds of their official support channels for useful feedback.

This is Apple you're talking about.

Except auto-playing videos in browser.

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