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AI learned this figure of speech from humans. Even the frequency in which it is used is copied from humans. So you can't really use it to determine if something is written by an AI or not.

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LLMs might follow the frequencies of the training data in their raw form, but nobody uses raw LLMs, they use models which have been RLHFed to hell and back to bias them towards specific patterns. Then newer models were trained on the output of those RLHFed models, and further RLHFed, and so on, and so on.

The H in RLHF stands for human. If humans didn't use the expression, then the LLM wouldn't.

In practice RLHF isn't a survey of every living humans personal style or preferences though, its purpose is to make the model more useful in the eyes of the vendor, mainly by getting cheap third-world labor to nudge the model according to the vendors instructions. You don't get a subservient, sycophantic and "safe" chat interface out of unstructured data without putting your thumb on the scale, hard.

> AI learned this figure of speech from humans. Even the frequency in which it is used is copied from humans.

Can you point to examples of these patterns with the same frequency in any written content dated any time prior to 2024?

If you think that the article is written by human or that is is unclear, please go ahead. Others here on HN also have pointed out that the author shoots out such lengthy blog posts every day. And you can also see the typical emoji AI slop here: https://www.ivanturkovic.com/services/

But I have no issue with your argumentation whatsoever, it is just that I think there is more than sufficient evidence, and you think there is not.

Bro, it reeks of AI.

I find this a better argument.

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