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We are at the age of alchemy, wait for the age of chemistry and physics. New mathematical foundations are yet to be found.

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I’m not convinced that useful mathematical foundations will be found anytime soon. Neural nets exist because we want to make decisions in a world that is so noisy, complex and chaotic that we can’t satisfy the requirements of more rigorous analytical frameworks. It seems to me that the irreducible complexity is in the real world, not the neural networks.

Never underestimate the power of mathematics. On the other hand, a lot of mathematical breakthroughs in the history are not found by people doing mathematics but in physics and engineering. Calculus, statistics, information theory, etc.

Even for computer science, take a look at Turing Award from 1966 [0], we will see how short sighted we are if we only follow the trend. Time will tell and smart people will find new path.

[0]: https://amturing.acm.org/byyear.cfm

I have a background in mathematics, I believe in mathematics, but I don't believe in blind faith. Physics gave us statistical mechanics precisely because it's impossible to measure, model and predict the behavior of every individual particle in real-world systems. My gut feeling is that a mathematical theory of LLMs is more likely to look like statistical mechanics than something that tames chaos. That certainly doesn't mean that theory wont't open new doors though that we haven't currently thought of.

My point is that new mathematics will eventually come out of this mess. [0]

[0] https://youtu.be/2Op3QLzMgSY?t=75

I believe some of the argument in this article is that we may have had something closer to the start of a real foundation for a chemistry and money shifted back towards the direction of alchemy for the time being simply because alchemy's practitioners are better at making it seem shinier and more exciting.

I don't know if I entirely agree with the article, but it has some food for thought.

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