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When your whole job is "giving notes", being flattered, and imagining your workers as cogs, prompting a chatbot probably does feel like "work."

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And lobbying to implement age verification.

Assuming age verification should be implemented, do you think the application layer is the right place to do that, or would the OS layer make more sense?

The parental layer is the right place to do that.

That's great. Any serious proposals?

I wouldn't tell you how to parent your children, and all I ask is the same consideration in return.

I just see it as an unnecessary hill to die on. Its not possible to win on those conditions so why spend energy on a failed outcome? I wish those who shared the sentiment found an effective method to achieve their goals, but online message board activism doesn't pass the sniff test.

To me it's a public health issue and shares the same, "you can do what you want, but I will not be forced into participating," that resulted in the invention of chin diapers. To an outsider both look like pathological demand avoidance[1].

1. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pathological_demand_avoidance

So what’s your suggestion?

Surely you don’t support ID gating the Internet?

How old are you?

It seems like the example you give points to undesirable consequences as a direct result of government intervention. Is your example meant to be a point against any sort of legislation regarding age verification?

It's a general principle but too simplistic to contribute to a solution.

I believe I should prevent you from starving, willfully or negligently harming (in a serious way), or denying significant education or medical care to your childern; I believe you shouldn't be able to take your children into some adult places like strip clubs.

The strip clubs also have an obligation to keep out your children and need a method to do so, in this case the online 'strip clubs'.

The question is, given other priorities such as privacy, what is the best method? I think it's parental tools in OSes, including the ability to setup accounts for minors.

You missed the killer feature, even more diffusion of responsibility.

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