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OpenAI/ChatGPT/Codex, Anthropic/Claude and Google/Gemini all do this.

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> OpenAI/ChatGPT/Codex, Anthropic/Claude and Google/Gemini all do this.

1. Everyone doing this doesn't mean it's acceptable.

2. Google Gemini explicitly says right under the chat box if you are a paid subscriber (Workspace):

     Your <company name> chats aren’t used to improve our models. Gemini is AI and can make mistakes.

Not sure about the others.

I think anyone using a "Team" or enterprise plan of ChatGPT/Claude/Copilot doesn't have their data used for training, that's the same across the board.

My comment was not meant to excuse what they're doing, just to point out that it's the bad status quo for these services

Regarding Claude: As I have unticked the "Help improve Claude" checkbox, I was under the impression that Claude did not do this.

https://privacy.claude.com/en/articles/10023555-how-do-you-u...

You can opt out with all three (Codex, Claude, Copilot) except for Gemini

Last time I checked Codex didn't have that option for $20 plan

> except for Gemini

This is incorrect. If you are a paid subscriber, Gemini explicitly states it doesn't use your data to train its models.

Yeah you're right, I filed it away as no opt out for some reason

Maybe because Google "does not sell" personal information, yet almost all their revenue comes from personal information?

They sell aggregated information.

And targeted information.

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