> Remember, they killed 30K of their own to quell an uprising.[2]
There is absolutely no way to know if it's true or not
There is absolutely no way to know if it's true or not
I guess you just have to reflect on how nice it is that the one thing we know for sure aligns with an ongoing justification for all the bad stuff that needs to happen! It's funny how it works like that, but we have to take their word for it.
I remember seeing those maps pointing to the WMDs in Iraq on NYT. I remember when it was unspeakable to be critical of the narrative. All you can do, I guess, is hope that they wouldn't do that again, believe that this time its different.
But making outrageous claims then replying with " why are you defending Iran " is the gimmick.
Its like a psyop meme mash-up of reddit arguments, ad infinitum
Iran likely was weeks away from a nuclear bomb - they had all the parts, materials and know-how. They just needed the final steps of enrichment, and hand assembly a bomb. They had been in this position of a long time without taking the final steps, but at any time they only needed a few weeks to the first working bomb if they wanted to take those steps. (if they wanted to do mass production that would take longer)
That number was simply made up and comes from Iran International, a Mossad-funded Pahlavist site.
Additionally, the Iranian government states that 2-3,000 were killed, mostly from Mossad-armed insurrectionists killing Iranian police.
So who are you going to believe? Israel, or Iran?
The vast majority of people trust the Iranian government over the Israeli regime.
Right... Nobody sane would trust an authoritarian regime which suppresses any type of free speech and and even banned the internet regardless of everything else.
Mistrusting Israel is understandable but that seems tangential.
Yes, specifically you. YOU would do that too.
War changes rules of a country.
> armed insurrectionists
Unfortunately not even remotely armed enough to make a difference...
> War changes rules of a country.
Oh so the Iranian regime was not murdering its own peacefully protesting citizens (regardless of the existence of these "armed insurrectionists") for many years now?
This is about whether you would shut down the internet or not, not whether you would rise to the top of the hierarchy on a brutal totalitarian regime built on religious fanaticism... like Israel. You know, a country with strict limits on media, including shutting down media outlets it deems critical of the state.
Yes, you would shut down the internet in a war. Yes, specifically you. Just like how you would just down media companies and plane flights in wartime, since you, yes you specifically, do not believe in Democracy.
>Oh so the Iranian regime was not murdering its own peacefully protesting citizens (regardless of the existence of these "armed insurrectionists") for many years now?
So then for how many years do you think Mossad armed the insurrectionists that you are trying to call "peaceful protesters"?
"Brutal apartheid state"? Well perhaps... certainly not a totalitarian regime, though.
> many years do you think Mossad armed the insurrectionists
Sadly and unfortunately either not long enough and/or didn't provide them with enough weapons. But yeah I agree with your sentiment that Mossad should have done a much better job if they were serious about overthrowing the regime.
Also, please go back to reddit.
I think we can all agree that the Iranian government are the good guys and the Israeli regime are the bad guys. That's not in dispute. What IS in dispute is how we work together on removing the Israeli government. I think we should support the Iranian government, since they are already well on their in the process of removing the Israeli regime from power and replacing them with the good Hamas government.
Or just in case Mossad doesn't radicalize you?
I’m not sure I agree with it - I completely trust Israel, but only so far as that it’ll do what suits it. Human rights, and everyone else be dammed.
Yes, I understood that and still it makes no sense to me, I mean extremely untrustworthy and very untrustworthy seems about the same since you can't trust anything either source says.
Israel at least have a free(ish) media and is less likely to hang someone leaking information from a construction crane.
Related: special laws to allow execution of Palestinians being debated now.
https://www.aa.com.tr/en/middle-east/israeli-law-to-execute-...
When you just make things up like this, it causes people to ignore everything else you say.