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Nothing recent made me feel quite as old and out of the loop more as the slowness with which I realized that this is about x.com (Twitter), not x.org (the windowing system).

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That too would very likely be seen as deeply political.

After reading about Wayland for 10 (?) years and thinking it was some huge deal, I finally took the leap as I was redoing my window manager anyway and it was quite easy (at least on NixOS). Heck virt-viewer (one of my main apps) is still running under Xwayland because the performance seems better.

10 years ago Wayland was in much worse state. It started being good in the last few years, though some features are still lacking.

Oh for sure. The point is the way I hear it talked about even today is as if it's going to be really great at some point in the future, but involves a lot of off-the-beaten-path tinkering if you want to use it right now. But there really wasn't much tinkering!

Honestly with "AI" helping a lot of the boring configuration tedium, I feel like I might finally reach the stage where I like my desktop environment config.

The only reason why I'm not running Wayland on my Framework laptop is that there's some really weird bug where it hardlocks the system, and after I force-reboot it, the audio chip doesn't come back up unless I drain or unplug the battery. X11 doesn't have this issue.

Of course, this was also several years ago, and it's possible the bug has been fixed. Maybe I should try Wayland again.

Whenever I see X used, I wonder if the author will return to replace the variable with the actual name.

I was thinking of X11 as well, but did not feel old - until I read your text. ;)

My favourite microblogging platform is way.land

You're aging well

Probably more reasonable.

I'm not sure why xorg exists if their sole purpose is to kill x. As per the many posts by their developers.

It would be ironic if Xorg launched a twitter competitor using a custom update protocol (an X extension) over the network and TCL

knowing how xorg currently operates (it doesn't, it has a successor) it'd be a wayland protocol negotiated over dbus and mainly opposed by the GNOME people

I get really really tired at the back and forth with Wayland and all that, but I would put up with reading rants about windowing systems everyday if it meant I never had to think about this X again.

My first thought was "so they go commandline now?". Because X for me is still "the graphical interface".

X11? What is that, one of Musk's children?

I remember being dazzled by Xeyes.

I had the exact same experience.

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