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I can tell you are unable to approach this topic rationally.

No one made the claim this is the worse genocide ever. It does not need to rise to that bar to be a genocide. Your hyperbole is not a good faith effort to discuss the topic. And the whataboutism is a deflection. Genocide is bad everywhere it's occurring. Right now it's occurring in many places, one of which is within Israel/Palestine. If you believe it's also happening elsewhere, we should condemn those as well, not absolve the actions of Netanyahu.

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> Your hyperbole is not a good faith effort to discuss the topic

I mean.. I think the same about your continued use of the word "genocide" in this war. Israel is fighting a war with human shields being explicitly used basically 100% of the time. Hamas fires missiles from inside refugee camps, and shooting AKs from behind children. Hamas is committing a war crime almost every time they attack at all.

They built a tunnel system that could house their entire civilian population, but if a civilian tried to take shelter Hamas shoots them. Civilian casualties was always the goal for Hamas, because the west is predictably fooled by it.

Israel has deployed more explosive munitions by tonnage on the Gaza Strip than were deployed in the entirety of world war 2. In an area smaller than Seattle, with four times the density of civilians and a huge proportion of children.

They've deployed white phosphorous. There are IDF soldiers on record saying they've shot children waiting in line for aid, because they drifted inches over the "do not step past this line" mark. Sde Teiman is a torture camp.

Hamas is evil, but you can fight evil without those things. I condemn Hamas, but "they did a war crime" is not a justification for total violence of any type as retribution.

And what about tolerance of settlers in the West Bank? The removal of journalists? The killing of aid workers? It's not just the Gaza Strip (though what's there is truly beyond the pale.)

> Israel has deployed more explosive munitions by tonnage on the Gaza Strip than were deployed in the entirety of world war 2

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Israeli_bombing_of_the_Gaza_St...

https://history.stackexchange.com/questions/56193/what-was-t...

0.7 kilotons vs 3000 kilotons. You're off by 4 orders of magnitude. That's pretty bad, even Hamas doesn't lie that badly.

I was wrong. Let me fix that. (Edit: I cannot edit it now.) I misread that statistic and I was incorrect. That said, 70,000 tonnes is 70 kilotonnes, not 0.7. You are correct, 70 kilotonnes is smaller than 3,000.

70 kilotonnes is roughly twice the tonnage of the nukes dropped on Japan, or roughly equal to the tonnage dropped by Germany on the UK (including during the Blitz and V2 rocket payloads).

Yea, makes sense doesn't it? Israel is fighting an almost completely subterranean enemy. Comparing tonnage to a war where the enemy was above ground is silly.

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