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> I've determined that my ultimate dream car would be something like a Rivian but with Waymo tech

So a Tesla? I think your dream is pretty common, since they make the most popular vehicle in the world

It will be amazing if they get self-driving working. Currently, you can't even sit in the back seat.

It depends what you mean by self-driving. The car drives itself without any input; I would argue that fits the definition of self driving. Legally you must be supervising it, which is a valid criticism, but the car drives itself well enough that I can provide basically no input on 20+ hour cross-country trips, which allows me to do things like not stop to sleep.

Self driving means self driving. If I drive myself to work, my wife doesn’t need to keep her eyes on the road for me.

The supervised driving is great, I have used it with my Model Y, but let me know when the car can pickup and drop off my kids at their school and activities. Like Waymo can. Then, it will be self driving.

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