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It’s terrible that Epstein did that. And Thiel is a really odd duck, that’s for sure.

Do you have any evidence that files related to Trump were held back? I don’t believe that’s the case.

He’s mentioned in many of the files. I found it particularly interesting that Trump was an FBI informant that worked with the government to get Epstein convicted.

Have you done more than Trump has done to stop human trafficking? If so, please be specific.

And thank you. I’m really happy that Trump was elected. I found this year’s tax credits for social security income, overtime, and car payments on American vehicles to be especially great. Most favored nation drug pricing was also a really impressive achievement!

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There is zero evidence Trump informed the FBI about Epstein.

Trump was Epstein's close friend for many years. There are many photos of Trump partying with Epstein and young women.

It is impossible that Trump did not know what Epstein was up to. At a minimum, he knew about tremendous abuse of children and did nothing to stop it, despite being a wealthy and powerful man. At worst, he fully participated.

Fuck you and your willingness to be misled.

There is evidence that Trump informed the FBI and local law enforcement about Epstein. You may not find it convincing, but the two aren’t mutually exclusive.

History is an ordered list. Yes, Trump was friends with Epstein for a number of years. But then what happened?

Yes, Trump knew Epstein was a creep. The documentation indicates that he did do something about it.

You can yell at me and be rude all you’d like though. This is the internet after all.

If I was a rich and powerful person, and my rich friend was running a child sex trafficking ring, I would stop being friends with that person, immediately, once I knew about it.

It's extremely clear that Trump did not do that. He continued the friendship.

What would you do in that situation? I'd burn that friend to the ground, legally, socially, every way I could. I certainly wouldn't still be hanging around with him, talking about how cool he is, etc.

Your standards for human behavior suck.

In reality, Trump stopped associating with Epstein when employees of his club complained about Epstein’s behavior. He also expelled him from his club.

My standards for human behavior are high. So high that I’m disappointed when people join in on slandering a person that doesn’t deserve it.

I’m sure it’s nice to imagine yourself as a brave person who would punish Epstein more than Trump did, but I guess we’ll never know if that’s true or not. I’d wager you’d probably just go along with whatever provided you the most social affirmation.

Keep drinking that kool-aid. Wow.

BTW we haven't even talked about the 100000 other things that make Trump a terrible person. Even if a timeline could be produced that fully exonerates Trump regarding Epstein (it can't), you'd still have so many other reasons he's a trash person.

You are not a good judge of character.

You’re not saying anything I haven’t heard 100 times in the media. How many more “Trump bad” slanderous narratives that wind up debunked will you believe before you ask yourself if you were wrong?

I’m a really good judge of character. When folks don’t think for themselves, and instead join in on unfounded slander campaigns, it usually doesn’t speak well of their character.

I won’t join in. I don’t mind being insulted for it by random strangers on the internet. It’s a small price to pay for advocating for clear thinking and decent morals. If just one person questions their assumptions, then I’ve done my part.

Trump is a rapist, per the courts, per Ivana Trump, and per statements of Epstein victims.

Trump is the most corrupt president in US history, by a few orders of magnitude.

Trump lies continuously, obviously, ridiculously. Hell, how many times has the Iran war "ended" in the last 2 months, per Trump?

You do not have decent morals if you excuse Trump.

Fuck off with your calm fascist game.

None of those words carry any weight, sorry. That whole line of attack is just not credible. It’s comical that anyone could possibly think it would be effective in 2026.

You choose not to believe the clear evidence.

Trump's been a known sex pest, liar, and cheat since the 80s. He hasn't changed in the decades since.

No one ever claimed any of that until he ran for President. And you fell for it.

That’s not true. People have been saying it since, at least, the 1980s.

Not a lot of people were listening to it until he started to be considered a serious Presidential candidate.

It is true. I’m not sure what more I can tell you. Good luck.

> It is true.

It's literally not. Like, I personally was aware of some of the allegations before he ran for President. And not even the time in 2016, the time he made an effort for the Reform Party nomination in 2000 and bailed early on in the process.

> I’m not sure what more I can tell you.

You can make up whatever fiction you like, the fact is that allegations of sexual and other impropriety against Trump existed (but got far less attention) long before he was a major Presidential candidate, but got a whole lot more attention when he became that.

Maybe you're just out of touch or didn't live through the 80's.

Trump was made fun of for lying, self promotion and boosting via pseudonyms (eg: "John Barron") since the early 1980s at the very least.

Holy shit, how young are you?

I guess you did not have the experience of seeing his lying sex pest escapades spread across newspaper and tabloid headlines intermittently through the 80s and 90s like a lot of us did.

But sure, no one said aaaaaanything like that about Trump before 2016, no sir!

Ivana Trump accused Donald Trump of rape in 1990 btw.

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