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In reality, Trump stopped associating with Epstein when employees of his club complained about Epstein’s behavior. He also expelled him from his club.

My standards for human behavior are high. So high that I’m disappointed when people join in on slandering a person that doesn’t deserve it.

I’m sure it’s nice to imagine yourself as a brave person who would punish Epstein more than Trump did, but I guess we’ll never know if that’s true or not. I’d wager you’d probably just go along with whatever provided you the most social affirmation.

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Keep drinking that kool-aid. Wow.

BTW we haven't even talked about the 100000 other things that make Trump a terrible person. Even if a timeline could be produced that fully exonerates Trump regarding Epstein (it can't), you'd still have so many other reasons he's a trash person.

You are not a good judge of character.

You’re not saying anything I haven’t heard 100 times in the media. How many more “Trump bad” slanderous narratives that wind up debunked will you believe before you ask yourself if you were wrong?

I’m a really good judge of character. When folks don’t think for themselves, and instead join in on unfounded slander campaigns, it usually doesn’t speak well of their character.

I won’t join in. I don’t mind being insulted for it by random strangers on the internet. It’s a small price to pay for advocating for clear thinking and decent morals. If just one person questions their assumptions, then I’ve done my part.

Trump is a rapist, per the courts, per Ivana Trump, and per statements of Epstein victims.

Trump is the most corrupt president in US history, by a few orders of magnitude.

Trump lies continuously, obviously, ridiculously. Hell, how many times has the Iran war "ended" in the last 2 months, per Trump?

You do not have decent morals if you excuse Trump.

Fuck off with your calm fascist game.

None of those words carry any weight, sorry. That whole line of attack is just not credible. It’s comical that anyone could possibly think it would be effective in 2026.

You choose not to believe the clear evidence.

Trump's been a known sex pest, liar, and cheat since the 80s. He hasn't changed in the decades since.

No one ever claimed any of that until he ran for President. And you fell for it.

That’s not true. People have been saying it since, at least, the 1980s.

Not a lot of people were listening to it until he started to be considered a serious Presidential candidate.

It is true. I’m not sure what more I can tell you. Good luck.

> It is true.

It's literally not. Like, I personally was aware of some of the allegations before he ran for President. And not even the time in 2016, the time he made an effort for the Reform Party nomination in 2000 and bailed early on in the process.

> I’m not sure what more I can tell you.

You can make up whatever fiction you like, the fact is that allegations of sexual and other impropriety against Trump existed (but got far less attention) long before he was a major Presidential candidate, but got a whole lot more attention when he became that.

Maybe you're just out of touch or didn't live through the 80's.

Trump was made fun of for lying, self promotion and boosting via pseudonyms (eg: "John Barron") since the early 1980s at the very least.

Holy shit, how young are you?

I guess you did not have the experience of seeing his lying sex pest escapades spread across newspaper and tabloid headlines intermittently through the 80s and 90s like a lot of us did.

But sure, no one said aaaaaanything like that about Trump before 2016, no sir!

Ivana Trump accused Donald Trump of rape in 1990 btw.

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