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What is 'subjective' about 38,702,000 people murdered?

There is something deeply, profoundly morally wrong with you that you have attempted to equivocate that number away for the sake of your ideology.

Polite debate fails here. This is unforgivable. You must become a different person to the one you are now, the one who can put these weasel words on a web forum to try to blur distinctions that must be made.

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"Murdered"... No, there was no intent. They starved, because of a number of counter productive measures. Mao would not instigate the great leap forward had he known the consequences in advance.

Hiroshima/Nagasaki was murder

Rape of Nanjing was murder

The holocaust was murder

Great Leap forward was a very big unintentional mistake.

Absolute numbers are deceptive (and depressing) when talking about China, but it is often better to look at percentages.

Your Attack on the GP's morality is uncalled for. I think you need to check your own ideology and emotion at the door, and discuss things rationally.

English is not my first language, yet I am sure I expressed myself clearly. I said it is subjective to say the USA are more destructive than China, not the other way 'round like you seem to have understood, or wanted to understand.

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