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ChatGPT (the setting is shared with Codex) and Claude (shared with Claude Code) also have sharing enabled by default, so why aren't they cheaper?

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There's evidence various third-party models (including Deepseek) used distilling in training, based on models from those leading services. So they have more flexibility with pricing.

So? And Anthropic/OpenAI literally stole copyrighted content to train their models.

The point was that distilling based on others' models for training means they're not spending the same amount on R&D and/or training, giving them headroom in other ways (responding to the parent's point). It wasn't a comment reflecting on copyright/fair use.

In the same fashion, Anthropic/OpenAI also reduced their training cost by not purchasing the license to copyrighted work and stealing it instead.

Is that fundamentally any different than what e.g., Meta and OpenAI have done?

Besides, hasn't SCotUS ruled that raw LLM output isn't subject to copyright? So these companies would be breaking a ToS at worst.

They are? They give away thousands of dollars via subs.

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