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Well before Windows I spent years with both Linux and Mac and I found Windows to be a good mix of stability and suitability for development now that WSL is a thing. Also for gaming it's the best by a long shot so just all around I've found it to be best and WSL made me never miss Linux.

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Nah my frames on Linux beat yours easily.

Unlikely due to the better and more stable NVIDIA drivers available to Windows and the greater compatibility with every game without having to mess around with configuration files or other hacks. But you do you.

Linux drivers are now first class and are faster and easier to install than any Windows drivers. There's no bullshit extras with them. They just work. Plus steam launches games in containers so there's zero configuration. If you don't know what you're talking about it is in fact better to say nothing than to just make shit up.

It's great that gaming on Linux has gotten a lot better over the last several years but let's not pretend like Windows still isn't far ahead on this

Also how can drivers be easier to install than on Windows when updating my GPU driver is one click?

Here's a pre-configured Fedora based distro that is zero clicks. You sign into Steam and go. Drivers are preinstalled. You literally sign into steam and hit play.

https://nobaraproject.org/

Your answer to "GPU driver updates on Windows are one click, how can Linux be easier" is "here's another distro, install this instead"? This is ridiculous

He wanted it pre-configured and I pointed him to the one distro maintained by a Red Hat employee based on one of the most popular and supported distros.

Ya'll will complain about anything.

It is a live USB you can game on. You don't even really need to install it.

What? You need to _download_ drivers? They come pre-installed in modern distros.

I'm obviously referring to upgrading drivers. Important especially when playing new games since they come with specific optimizations.

It's also usually automated.

It can be automated on Windows too so I don't really understand what your point is here?

It's easier than windows (generally) because it'll just update with your OS. It's in the repo (sometimes) or a third party repo. It's automatic.

Oh yes, I distinctly remember having to use an outdated driver from a third-party repository to fix some sort of compatibility issue. Never had to do that on Windows

Well, my integrated GPU has a hard time with external 5k screens on Windows fairly often. I need to manually install the Intel drivers, which work for a while, but then Windows helpfully updates them to the earlier, borked version.

At least now this sometimes works if I turn the laptop on with the screen plugged-in. If I go to the toilet and the screen turns off, it's back to some low resolution. When my computer was new 5 years ago, it never did work in 5k, so... baby steps, right?.

Worked perfectly OOB on Linux.

I, who has to professionally support installs running Linux with Nvidia hardware, would personally say the situation is very far from ideal on Linux. I dislike this 'my dad can beat yours' kinda competition when it's very clear Linux still has significant issues to resolve.

Out of interest are they running OKM or proprietary driver?

Proprietary for now, not sure how good the open source one is. But the proprietary has many quirks/bugs and limitations especially when i comes to things like Linux specific Vulkan extensions.

I don't know the full story, but afaik, AMD/Intel Mesa based drivers are fully open source and are built in a much more Linux-native way. But unfortunately hardware choice is out of my jurisdiction.

I’ve run the open kernel module for some time and it seems to work well although I had to patch it to fix support for some VR hardware until upstream fixes it properly. What Vulcan extensions were you having issues with?

> better and more stable NVIDIA drivers available to Windows

Huh? It's the same driver. It works the same on every platform. There's no consistent difference in performance (at least not between FreeBSD and Windows, it's been a while since I ran Linux).

Of course just a personal experience, but I feel like I'm getting a much more stable experience with AMD in arch+sway/i3. Some of my friends with RTX5080s and such frequently crash on alt-tab or just simply from opening Steam overlay in their W*ndows setup.

Even with tiled windows I haven't had any game crash like that once. "alt-tab" equivalent takes 1ms and it just works. I can throw around the game window between workspaces, resize etc.

It's worth giving it a try. Unfortunate if games with certain AC setups are wanted, like GTA:O or LOL, but I can live without them.

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