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I might be a little more paranoid than most because of my profession, but none of these projects inspire enough trust to justify being installed - let alone directly on the machine I use every day.

OpenClaw, at least initially, and Hermes both appear to have been heavily astroturfed using all kinds of blackhat tactics, which is a huge red flag to me.

And then there is the code.

This doesn’t get called out enough. Although actually come to think of it, I think it could be against HN guidelines to accuse things of being Astroturfed!

There’s also no evidence for it aside from “stars go up too much” and “my social circle isn’t talking about it”, so that could be a reason!

You should be looking for a pyproject.toml: https://github.com/NousResearch/hermes-agent/blob/main/pypro...

And a uv.lock is also there...

My bad... saw the setup.py and quickly posted.