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It's an interesting story, but I could not help but have my mind skip over it because of the LLMisms. Acts like one of those taboola reels to me. If even just there was a tutorial to get people to write in such a way that it's not obviously LLM text it would be nice because the story is interesting.

I know, it's like complaining about JS etc. but it's like walking into an elevator and smelling very strong perfume. It's hard not to go "whew!"

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They are not written by an LLM lol, I have severe ADHD, this is how I write and there is plenty of my material out there spanning the last 20+ years (long before LLMs existed) to illustrate that.

i sent the article to an AI detection tool and it said that 22% are AI generated. (that tool distinguishes between AI generated, AI assisted, and human) it marks the first few paragraphs as such. i have no idea how accurate that tool generally is. it is clearly failing here. (part of the reason for checking articles is to learn how reliable those tools are, not to gather evidence against a writer)

what could help though is if you could find a way to have your articles proof read by someone else to at least weed out some of the more difficult to read constructs, like this one:

any Consent Management Platform (CMP) which sets a cookie for anything other than cookies which are not strictly necessary that the user has consented to

i would write that as:

any Consent Management Platform (CMP) which sets a cookie that is not strictly necessary but that the user has not consented to

i had to read your version three times to make sure i understood it correctly.

Nah this is 100% AI written.

> The reply I received a few days later did me the favour of putting the violation on the record. Their position, in their own words, was that "in order to receive marketing / offers, it is a condition to be a member of the customer club." That one sentence is the whole case. They had taken a right I am entitled to exercise for free and turned it into the price of admission.

I bet pangram would flag it. Humans don’t write like this. ADHD doesn’t cause this style of phrasing.

EDIT: Pangram predictably did in fact find it so: https://www.pangram.com/history/2e549b09-072d-4fe8-a000-e165...

Pretty unsurprising for a modern text like this to be honest. Or as one should say “Those two sections are the whole case. We took a free technology and made it the price of a blog post”.

> LLMisms

The word is “cliches”, and they existed long before LLMs.

Haha they are cliches, yes. But a specific type of cliche that is unique to current language models.

> That one sentence is the whole case

This example, for instance, is more uniquely LLM than mere common cliche.

> cliche that is unique to current language models

If it's something humans don't do and unique to certain programs, then "cliche" is probably not the correct term.

"I read the article, but it was full of improperly-escaped HTML entity references, how cliche."

Gonna need you to expand on that, because I don't see how that sentence is “uniquely LLM” at all. It feels pretty typical for legal people speaking informally.

Lmao at the absolute ego behind that wording >Gonna need you to expend on that Sure boss everyone here is just waiting for your commands to meet your every need

Cliches in general did, llms created new ones even though you may not be adept at recognising them

Lmao at the absolute ego behind that wording

dont tell me you also failed to detect the obvious llm style haha

Someone with tinnitus hears tones that aren't there, that doesn't make them adept at hearing tones. You will reply some analogous comment about deafness, but here's the thing: tinnitus is much more common than deafness.

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