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Comment by madrox | Hacker News Reader

I think the lie is to look at the problems we have that the internet has enabled and say "things are ok as they are don't try to do anything to solve it."

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If the problem is "social media bad for kids" then any parent that allows their children to access social media is as guilty of abuse or neglect as a parent that lets them play in traffic. Throw the parents in prison and put the kids in foster care. Problem solved.

If you think any attempt at a solve goes immediately to 11, sure, but I hope you believe in nuance or else we’re all lost.

That is a bold statement to make, and I wonder how many more people would be willing to make the same statement whenever these conversations come up on HN.

People make problems where there are none. Parents all around me are giving smartphones to their eight year olds without supervision.

I have kids and no amount of bullshit is going to convince me this is necessary for social interaction of any kind. If anything the "phone kids" are the weird ones.

People are creating this problem. You can easily, very easily, say "no" to a kid. I pay to keep you bloody alive and I will defend your sanity with everything I got because these kids are our future. Being disliked or "hated" by them is the least of my worries. Are we adults or what?

Sometimes I think there is a severe lack of "adulting" lately. No amount of legislation will fix that.

Well, as I said, we figured out ways to make parents big-r Responsible by applying harsh penalties when they abuse or neglect their children. We spend countless billions on government agenices whose sole purpose is to intervene when parents fail their children. We should use this pre-existing system to deal with the problem of parents allowing their children to use social media.

Things are, in fact, okay as they are, attempts to impose identity requirements would make things less okay, and people trying to claim they aren't okay need to be defeated.

Putting your head in the sand from position of wealthy privilege doesn't change the reality.

Oh, a great many things are broken and need fixing. "The internet doesn't have enough surveillance and deanonymization" is just not one of those things.

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