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Well this kind of sucks. I've been waiting for the M6 MBPs because they're rumored (strong rumors, though) to finally remove the notch that has been a historic self-own. But it sounds like I might as well wait longer for the M7 lineup. Or maybe get a Framework Pro instead.

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The notch does not matter at all, you will forget it's there.

I agree. It was very annoying to me to spend the money (and on the nano matte one too) and still have that stupid notch. But it never makes any difference at all which is good news.

I was surprised to even see it mentioned after all these years, literally haven’t thought about it a single time since I got my first MBP that had it.

It’s a complete embarrassment. They added it for aesthetic alignment with the iPhone 13. And then the 14 removed the notch soon after. They’ve kept it for years since then. It has no functional purpose. It’s not there for face ID or because they couldn’t figure out how to do a hole punch camera.

It's there to give you more screen space...

Yes we got more vertical space by going into what used to be the bezel. But why is the notch so wide? Why not have a hole punch camera?

Except that it hides stuff...

If you have that much in your menubar you have bigger problems

Blaming the user, nice to see apple traditions still respected.

It just doesn't seem like a problem. If you put too many icons somewhere than fit in that place, of course you're going to run out of space…

And if you have a hole in your screen you must make your OS aware of it and put the menus around it?

It's literally not an issue

And when it is, it's the user's fault. We're going in circles.

Aerospace, Nvidia Sync, Dropbox, Espanso, Karabiner, displaylink manager, NTFS for mac, Maccy, Streamdeck, Tailscale, + 6 mac display/bat/wifi/search/cfg/date.

Elaborate on my problems... or help me fix them.

Well… your menu items will disappear behind it still in 2026. You would need an extra app for that…

But in terms of “noticing it” you are correct. You won’t pay attention after a day or two.

EDIT: this menu managing app will need permissios to make screen captures. So much for the privacy. Forgot to mention.

There’s so many annoying bugs in Mac OS (like the screwed up window management and alt-tab not working properly), that the notch seems like an odd complaint at this point. The OS is fighting the user constantly, and there’s not much we can do…

I think this is one of the things they're fixing in macOS 27 golden gate, took them long enough. https://www.reddit.com/r/MacOSBeta/comments/1u0lhyz/macos_27...

I'm not even convinced this is a bug. Menu icons proliferated over the last couple of years, this isn't a problem unless you enable more than you have room for.

I agree, I keep mine pretty minimal, most are basically there as ads to remind you they exist cough cough ms teams.

My menu items go around it...

Basically, you are saying "There are 4 lights"

I'm a huge fan of Star Trek, David Warner, and Patrick Stewart, and I'm really not. The notch isn't taking anything away, it's a way to give users more screen space than they could otherwise get. Normally the camera has to be above the screen, this was a way to get the menu bar off of the rest of the screen real estate and get you more usable pixels.

Same, have a very old MBP. Not sure what to do because I don’t want to wait a year and a half. That coupled with today’s price increases make it a tougher decision.

You can turn off the notch, I mean crop it out at least.

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