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I mean, if you saw the Canadian PMs speech at davos, you'd know "the west" is already distancing itself from the US. This is not a hypothetical, it has begun.

It's not like trade deals are ripped up over night, it's gonna take a while to have noticeable effect, but it is happening, and has been happening for over a year.

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A speech is the definition of a hypothetical. I can show you a million Trump speeches that "show" the opposite. Something tells me you wont take those as gospel for some reason.

>It's not like trade deals are ripped up over night

Oh really? I thought we're ABOUT to find out what it's like to have no allies or business partners? Weird!

>it's gonna take a while to have noticeable effect

Ah, the magic "it's happening but I can't prove it, so trust me bro". Meanwhile, I can point you to tangible metrics showing the world is moving away from the EU to China, meaning the EU will have zero trade with anyone else in short order (trust me it's really happening).

False equivalency. Trump constantly says whatever he wants in plain contradiction to verifiable facts: The strait is open! We win the war! I’m not in the Epstein files!

Those may be the facts now, but not forever. It's gonna take a while to have noticeable effect. That doesn't mean what he's saying is not about to come true.

You mean that one day all the Epstein files will change to no longer contain countless mentions of Trump?

How do you supposed this will happen? Through destruction of evidence or the invention of a Time Machine to warn his younger self?

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