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Can be that I remembered it incorrectly, as it was in 2008, but here it is:

https://se-radio.net/2008/03/episode-88-the-singularity-rese...

Thanks, that was fascinating! I also see that Galen Hunt contributed to Windows Phone, which I adored. (Maybe I'm quixotic, maybe I'm a poor picker, but i love a thing that's beautiful and doomed.)

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